Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein Mp3
December 5, 2006 by Andy
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Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein. The famous debate that people still talk about.
Transcripts of the debate are available here and here.
- Twenty Years ago tonight: The Bahnsen/Stein Debate
- Living with Greg Bahnsen Now: Reflections ten years after his passing - 12/10/2005
- Jack Sawyer on Greg Bahnsen - 3/30/2005
- Darren Doane on Greg Bahnsen - 2/14/2005
- My favorite part of the Great Debate - 2/11/2005
- Tribute to Greg L. Bahnsen - 4/1/2004
Other debates,
Greg Bahnsen vs Edward Tabash
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3
Greg Bahnsen vs George Smith
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6
Part 7 Part 8 Part 9 Part 10 Part 11 Part 12
Articles by Greg Bahnsen,
- “Revelation, Speculation, and Science,” Presbyterian Guardian 40:1,
- “Prolegomena to Apologetics,” Synapse II (Westminster Seminary, 1972)
- “The Impropriety of Evidentially Arguing for the Resurrection,” Synapse II (Westminster Seminary)
- “Awaiting Our Verdict?,” Christianity Today (June 9, 1972) [Response to J. W. Montgomery]
- “Evangelism and Apologetics,” Synapse III
- “A Critique of the Evidentialist Apologetical Method of John Warwick Montgomery”
- “Modern Materialism: The Disappearance Form of the Mind-Body Identity Thesis,” (Evangelical Philosophical Society, 1976)
- “Science, Subjectivity, and Scripture,” [Are Science and Logic Objective, Neutral, and Invariant?] (1979)
- “The Encounter of Jerusalem with Athens,” Ashland Theological Bulletin XIII:1 (Spring, 1980) [Exposition of Acts 17] (part of Always Ready).
- “Beware of Philosophy!” The Conqueror, II:2 [Col. 2 does not forbid studying philosophy]
- Review: “A Critique of Classical Apologetics,” Presbyterian Journal 44:32 (Dec. 4, 1985) [Response to Gerstner & Sproul in defense of Van Til]
- Letter: “Bahnsen responds to Gerstner,” Presbyterian Journal 44:34 (December 18, 1985)
- “At War with the Word: The Necessity of Biblical Antithesis,” Antithesis I:1 (Jan/Feb, 1990)
- “False Antithesis: A Critique of the Notion of Antithesis in Francis Schaeffer’s Apologetic,” Antithesis I:3 (May/Jun, 1990)
- “Autonomy is No Ladder to Christ’s Supreme Authority,” Penpoint I:1 (October 1990)
- “Ready to Reason,” (VI:12; December, 1990)
- “The Heart of the Matter: Knowing and Believing,” (VII:1; Jan, 1991)
- “Answering Objections,” (VII:2; Feb, 1991)
- “Tools of Apologetics,” (Part I-VII:4; Apr, 1991)(Part II-VII:7; Jul, 1991)
- “Apologetics in Practice” [Bertrand Russell as example] (Part I-VII:8; Aug, 1991) (Part II-VII:9; Sep, 1991)
- “The Problem of Evil” (Part I-VII:10; Oct, 1991) (Part II-VII:12 Dec, 1991)
- “The Problem of Knowing the “Super-Natural”(Part I-VII:11; Nov, 1991) (Part II-VIII:1; Jan, 1992) (Part III-VIII:2; Feb, 1992)
- “The Problem of Faith” (Part I-Vol. VIII:5; May, 1992) (Part II-Vol. VIII:6; Jun, 1992)
- “The Problem of Religious Language” (Part I-Vol. VIII:9 Sept. 1992) (Part II-Vol. IX:1 Jan. 1993) (Part III-Vol. IX:5 May 1993)
- “The Problem of Miracles” (Part I-Vol. IX:7 July 1993) (Part II-Vol. IX:9 Sept. 1993)
- “A World Without Religion?” Penpoint I:2 (December 1990)
- “Dead Wrong,” Penpoint II:2 (April, 1991) [afterlife according to the movies]
- “Dr. Bahnsen Represents Christianity in Dialogue with Islam and Judaism at Orange Coast College” Penpoint Vol. II:6 (November., 1991)
- “The JFK Assassination and Apologetics” Penpoint Vol. III:3 (May 1992)
- “Where the Rubber Hits the Road” Penpoint Vol. III:5 (August 1992)
- “The Mind/Body Problem in Biblical Perspective” (1972)
- “Cross-Examination: What Does it Mean to Believe?” The Counsel of Chalcedon Vol. X:5 & 6 (July/August 1993)
- “Dr. Bahnsen Debates Atheist Lawyer” Penpoint Vol. V:1 (January 1994)
- “Van Til and Self-Deception,” Penpoint Vol. V:8 (Sept. 1994) NOTE: [Reprinted Penpoint Vol. V:10 (December, 1994)]
- “Van Til’s ‘Presuppositionalism’,” Penpoint Vol. VI:1 (January, 1995)
- “Van Til’s Challenge to Illegitimate Common Ground,” Penpoint Vol. VI:2 (February, 1995)
- “Van Til’s Why I Believe in God,” Penpoint Vol. VI:3 (March, 1995)
- “Van Til’s Call For a Distinctive Christian Mindset,” Penpoint VI:4 (April, 1995)
- “Van Til’s Life and Impact,” Penpoint VI:5 (May 1995)
- “Radical Empiricism Made Foolish,” Penpoint VI:10 (October, 1995)
- “Evidential Apologetics: The Right Way,” Penpoint VI:11 (November 1995)
- “The Crucial Concept of Self-Deception in Presuppositional Apologetics,” Westminster Theological Journal LVII (1995) 1-31
- “Presuppositional Reasoning With False Faiths,” Penpoint VII:2 (Feb/Mar 1996)
- “Presuppositional Procedure,” Penpoint VII:8 (September, 1996)
- “Another Cup of Coffee,” Penpoint VII:10 (November, 1996)
Thanks for the links,
Blessings,
Jim
http://thywordistruth.wordpress.com/
Nice, a bookmark for the Great Debate!
Please contact us, all Bahnsen audio files are copyrighted by Covenant Media Foundation, they are not yours to give them away.
Randy, I think you are mistaken. We don’t host the audios therefore we are not giving them away.
This is a great debate. Dr Bahnsen is straight to the point, never loses focus and keeps on hitting the nail on the head, everytime. Download these 2 mp3’s … now!
Just so you guys know, there are three parts to the great debate. Only two are provided here. To find the other part, go here: http://openairpreaching.com/Apologetics.html God Bless…
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Kerrigan,
Thanks for letting me know of Part 3!
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This debate just proves that the existence of God cannot be logically proven. I just wish that Christians don’t get into this debate with non believers. Either you are going to believe or you will not. Your personal experiences are your proof of his existence. Not a Bible, not a church, not a prophecy and not a minister. So please stop with the meaningless debates. They prove absolutely nothing.
Me, Atlanta/US
Have you listen to the debates?
btw, what constitute proofs?
also, how do you know that your senses are logical and coherent?
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Hey Andy,
I REALLY appreciate the site!!
I saw the msg. above from Randy from “Covenant Media Foundation”. Of course, on their website these debates cost money. Do you know if it is legal to have these debates on here for free?
I want to let A LOT of people know about this site but in good conscience I don’t feel free to do that right now since Randy said that “Covenant Media Foundation” OWNS the copy rights to Greg Bahnsen’s material.
Can you help?
Eric P,
We do not upload any files for download. We simply link them to other websites that do upload those files.
Thanks Andy.
So I guess the next question is whether those whom you’re linking to are legally providing the debates from Bahnsen….? If Randy from Covenant Media Foundation is right, even that group would not be able to legally provide the debates for free since CMF owns the copy rights and they choose to charge money.
I sincerely just want to honor the Lord here and adhere to the laws of the land (Rom. 13).
Any thoughts brother?
Thanks so much!!!!
Eric,
I doubt that the host of the files has been granted permission to freely distribute them.
Eric,
That is a good question for them.
I just purchased these media from Covenant Media. There are several messages about copyright throughout the order process, each stating that these recordings are not for free redistribution.
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