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Apparently the San Francisco Board of Supervisors supported the idea of naming a Navy vessel by consulting with a spirit using the ouija board!

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Where is rationality? Where is science? Where is the ACLU?

The Word of the Lord is still true.

For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.  For it is written, “I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.”  Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?  For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe (1 Cor 1:18-21)

 

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I’ve been struggling over this issue after reading both analyses against and for the position by Robyn Nordell and the California Family Councel respectively.

The consequence of voting yes, may save lives by involving outside parties, including judges, other family members, and/or parents.

Although I believe Robyn Nordell identifies the cost of passing proposition 4 correctly:

Summary of Concerns Addressed in this Updated Analysis:

  • This initiative gives pro-abortionists constitutionally-guaranteed tools that they could use to circumvent a parent’s right to make decisions in the best interest of their children.
  • This initiative would place the vague and undefined legal terms “severe emotional abuse” and “emotional abuse” into the Constitution for the first time.
  • Innocent parents could be more susceptible to false allegations of abuse or neglect.
  • Prop. 4 sets a new standard and principle in the Constitution concerning 1) who is considered “family,” 2) who can be designated to take the place of a parent, and 3) under what conditions. Just because courts have already ruled in this direction, and California and some other states have parts of Prop. 4’s language in their state law does not make it right or wise to place this wording in our Constitution.
  • This constitutional amendment places dangerous wording in the California Constitution, which could be used as the basis to argue that parental rights can be diminished in other areas of the lives of minor children. This dangerous wording could be persuasive in further undermining parental authority and the nuclear family (father, mother, child) as an autonomous social institution.”

I think the California Family Council puts the priorities correctly, lives over parental rights:

“….if lives can be saved, we must support the passage of Proposition 4.”

The logic relies on the premise being true. Can lives be saved?

My concern is I wonder if the stipulations of a court waiver are so easy that parents won’t be notified even if the law passes. If the law is so ineffective that parents are not notified at all, then we’re really not saving lives but rather sacrificing parental rights in the constitution for free!

Thus, my struggle is how ineffective is this law?

Here’s a cause and effect chart from a doctor’s perspective I made to aid in analyzing the overall effectiveness of proposition 4:

Cause and effect chart of Proposition 4

Cause and effect chart of Proposition 4

My concerns about the court waivers are threefold:

  1. Judge only needs to deem an unemancipated minor as both mature and well-informed to issue a waiver.
  2. Judge only needs to deem notifying parents not in the best interest of the minor
  3. If the court fails to give a ruling by 5 pm the next court day (after filing for waiver), the court waiver is automatically granted.

All three of the waivers have nothing to do with physical, emotional, or sexual abuse! If the physician or staff at planned parenthood always advise the minor to take this route, my fear is that they will always get the waiver. We already know, Planned Parenthood tells minors to lie about their age anyways. Remember the undercover video at Planned Parenthood:

Why not advise minors to take the most easiest legalized and legitamate route, that WE legalized!

The only benefit to this proposition is it would allow civil suits by affected parents or minors for anyone aiding the minor to circumvent the proposition (e.g. Forging a parental waiver). But this benefit might be nill considering if getting waivers legally are easier than doing it illegally.

If this law proves ineffective and takes away parental rights, we would have to fight for another constitutional amendment to change it. Honestly, I wonder if the pro-choice people are really trying to pull a fast one on us. I feel the summary provided by the state was vastly inadequate, not even including this huge potential loophole.

For the full proposition PDF click here.

At the same time though, I wonder if the proposition might discourage even one minor from getting an abortion. If one minor ignores the advice of Planned Parenthood to seek a court waiver, then perhaps the minor will be convinced by their parents to not have an abortion. Or perhaps, a minor may assume, incorrectly, that their parents must be notified and abstain from abortion.

Although I suspect that the judges will always hand out a waiver, maybe the whole court process might cause one minor to save one child. Because I can’t say that one child won’t be saved, at this time I must say yes to proposition 4.

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American Family Association

American Family Association2008 Voter Guides by State – Gives links to voter guides including:

Election Forum

2008 Election Forum – A Christian named Craig Huey, past guest speaker on the Frank Pastore show, rates California judges by their support of Constructionist view of law (i.e Believe law should be interpreted by what the writers intended), and his position on propositions.

Christian Coalition of America (updated 10/22)

Christian Coalition of America – Voter guide showing positions of Obama and McCain on national issues, mainly abortion and homosexuality.
State versions will be added at a later date.

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