There’s been much media buzz about Larycia Hawkins’ controversial theological statement on Facebook that Muslims and Christians worship the same God and Wheaton College’s direction in terminating her employment with the school.
I haven’t really commented about this whole matter although I’m struck at how many strawman, red-herring and muddling of the issue is going on with Hawkins and her supporters.
I don’t want to get into it as our blog in the past have posted resources concerning the error of assuming Islam is the same thing as Christianity when it comes to whether or not we worship the same God. Instead this question looms large in the back of my mind: What if Larycia Hawkins were to say Islam and Christianity worship the same god in an Islamic Country? Since it seems like she will be kicked out of Wheaton College I wonder what would happen if she applied to teach at an Islamic school somewhere in an Islamic country in the Middle East and say the things she has said?
I think her effort of stressing Christians and Muslims worship the same God and we should love one another is barking up the wrong tree. Her chastisement of Christians is missing the big elephant in the room in a world where people who are professing to be Muslims are the ones who currently in this world are murdering and persecuting Christians (among others) for religious differences of not worshipping the same god. But her move here of harping against Christians is predictable of self-righteous, politically correct “social justice” leftists warriors who want to use the victim narrative of the courageous hero by bullying their Don-Quixote-illusionary enemies when they can’t face down the real evil in this world. Because if she were to speak out that Muslims and Christians worship the same God to the people who really need it (in her eyes), well, she can’t have her head in veiled cape and not be beheaded too.
I think this is ‘stealth jihad’ or ‘jihad by the pen’. Did you know that Pakistan and countries in Africa fell to Islam not because of violent Jihad but because of stealth undermining the foundations of traditional faith and ultimately, replacing it? I think it is happening in full force in the U.S. today. We shouldn’t allow the rhetoric to distract us from the real issues. Read about Ahmadiyya and it’s history in the U.S. It has a connection with the roots of Penacostalism and easily aligns itself with non-Trinitarian Christian thought, the new apostolic movement, the Third Wave and the New Age Movement. I see a kind of world theology developing that excludes what is viewed as traditional Christians and Jews. Of course, Ahmadiyya itself is viewed as heretical in most of the Muslim World, as you point out in your article, that is the nature of this religion. No world religion will bring peace. Only, Jesus.
Amen. I think it is unfortunate many people don’t see the stealth side of Islamism. We see examples of it throughout history. We see the fruit of it too, in history and today. And yet people can still spend the time and effort to bash Christianity in light of all that is going on. Simply incredible. Last year around this time I was talking to members of an Ahmadiyya Mosque and while I am sadden to see them getting persecuted I think we must not be naive to think they won’t be aggressive with their faiths. I was really encouraged with my wife talking to them.
I don’t want persecution for anyone and I prefer peaceful methods of proselytizing over violence, any day.
I also, am very much for the freedom of religion. What I’d like to see is awareness of what it taking place among Christians and effort put into knowing why we believe what we believe. The sad thing is what begins by stealth ends in violent persecution of those who fail to convert. That is never acceptable.
Exactly. I rather there be discourse and not force, including what Laraycia is doing in forcing the school to have to accommodate to her views, even though her theological beliefs is contrary to the school and she should have had the integrity to step down and not play out the drama that she did. That’s immature and unacceptable.
Agreed. It is a tactic to turn the tolerance of the west against itself. Sadly, a very successful one.
In the first comment, I didn’t mean to tell you what to do to educate yourself…I should have worded it differently. Too many comments this morning.:0)
No worries Pam =)
She is WRONG!! I sure hope I don’t offend anyone, as I write this!!
The FALSE PAGANISM OCCULT-IDEOLOGY of islam is NOT a religion PERIOD!!
The FALSE PAGAN moon god allah-satan Baal is NOT a god PERIOD, it is just one of over 360 FALSE PAGANISM OCCULT-IDEOLOGY gods that came out of the middle east Arab nations!!
Our True GOD the FATHER who art in HEAVEN said: “Thou Shalt have NO other gods before ME.” ( Exodus 20:3 KJV )!!
The FALSE PAGAN moon god allah-satan Baal is NOT the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!
The FALSE prophet muhammad is NOT a prophet PERIOD, he was a PEDOPHILE / CHILD MOLESTER / RAPIST / RACIST / FASCIST / TERRORIST / MURDERER of JEWS AND CHRISTIANS!!
Our True GOD the FATHER said: “Beware of FALSE prophets which come to you in SHEEP’S clothing, but inwardly they are Ravening WOLVES.” ( Matthew 7:15 KJV )!!
Our True GOD the FATHER said: “Thou Shalt NOT KILL.” ( Exodus 20:13 KJV )!!
The UNHOLY koran ( qu’ran ) teaches HATE for Christians and Jewish people / Pedophilia / CHILD MOLESTERS / RAPISTS / RACISM / FASCISM / MARXISM / NAZISM / COMMUNISM / TERRORISM / TOTALITARIANISM!!
The UNHOLY koran ( qu’ran ) and their STRUGGLE ( Jihad, islam ) is the same as STRUGGLE ( Mein Kampf, Nazi Germany ) both these books are TWIN IDEOLOGIES OF HATE FOR JEWS AND CHRISTIANS!!
Our True GOD the FATHER who art in HEAVEN ( Hashem-Yahweh-YHWH-EMMANUEL-JEHOVAH ) and HIS SON YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST is the only true GOD!!
YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE, no one comes unto the FATHER, but through ME!! ( YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST )!!
Thus, Yeshua-Jesus Christ is the only WAY to enter into HEAVEN PERIOD!!
United We Stand with Israel-Yisrael and our Judeo-Christian Nation United States of America, Divided We FALL!!
Please PRAY for our Judeo-Christian Nation United States of America and Israel-Yisrael Everyday!! “Pray Without Ceasing.” ( 1 Thessalonians 5:17 KJV )!!
Our True GOD’S LOVE is STRONGER than satan’s hate and lies PERIOD!!
Our True GOD’S LOVE is from HEAVEN ABOVE through HIS SON YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST FOREVERMORE!!
Happy Shabbat Shalom ( Peaceful Sabbath ) Everyone!!
Love ❤ Always and Shalom Everyone, YSIC \o/
Kristi Ann
Kristi Ann, Amen! Islam is against so many things that are biblical as you outlined…and people can still ignorantly say its the same god that Christians and Muslims worship. SMH.
Does anyone else see a hint of the forming of the one world religion spoken of in the Bible? Good post, Jim!
Good point in connecting to the one world religion towards the end of times; haven’t thought of that when I wrote it.
Reblogged this on Talmidimblogging.
Thanks for sharing this post Vincent!
You’re very welcome Pastor Jim!
Would that Christian American leaders would take responsibility to speak the truth with their neighbors regarding their country’s unprovoked, unwarranted dismantling of the middle east. It’s high time they addressed the actual “stealth” threat, and ignored “the buzz” provided them by the same media
that keeps hundreds of thousands of dead children killed in Iraq safe away our
hearts and minds. We’re bated into unjust wars abroad and bated into domestic strife at home. Let’s address the issue, and start following orders from our King and let Him have His Way.
“And He was giving orders to them, saying, “Watch out! Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.” – Mark 8:15
“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” – Matthew 10:16
I do think the West’s interference in the Middle East has not been good for the Middle East and for the West. At the same time I do think we must also not forget the tyranny of Islam that began hundreds of years before the modern Western states intrude into the Middle East. I think we must speak out against Western entanglement in the Middle East while also realizing the horror that Islam has produced in the Middle East both spiritually and in the current state of affairs. What do you think?
Hmmmm, I wonder how long she would last saying all this in an all-Islamic country.
I don’t think she would last long…sad to say.