The meme below is a defense of Timothy Keller by drawing a comparison with Keller to Dutch Reformed theologian Herman Bavinck (1854–1921).

There is so much going on in this meme. I won’t be able to speak about everything stated. Nor is this post going to be attacking Timothy Keller though I sometimes feel his tweet on Twitter is too generalized and/or cryptic and they can be understood both by Christians and non-Christians in their own ways and therefore cheered by all. Instead I want to focus on this meme saying these all these claims above can be attributed to Herman Bavinck. My post is narrowly focusing on the claim that Bavinck would see himself as a political liberal. I do have some serious reservation when people invoke someone esteemed to improperly and inaccurately support a partisan political cause. This is true of those who can make Jesus into a rifle owning, card carrying NRA member Republican or the other spectrum where Jesus is portrayed as this beta male Vegan hippy pacifist who drink latte soy milk and is a woke SJW New Age Eastern mysticism guru. While not as egregious still I think Bavinck is being misrepresented for a political agenda here. Let me explain.
What is meant by politically liberal has changed over time. So we got to be careful with any equivocation there of Bavinck as a “political liberal” and what liberal means in late 1800s and early 1900s. If by “liberal” the meme means Classical Liberalism, that shouldn’t be equivocated with neoliberalism or even today’s shorthand for Woke political ideology (I am beginning to see neo-liberalism and Woke political ideology as distinct though Woke has affinity with neoliberalism, but biggest difference is modern woke political ideology doesn’t see the place for freedom of speech as famously argued by Herbert Marcuse which has been transmitted through Critical Theory).
As any political scientist will tell you there is a right wing vs left wing classical liberalism. Bavinck was the party chair of the anti-revolutionary party and what the tenet of the party would make even most Christian conservative and Republicans today looks progressive (relatively speaking) with things like a distinctive Protestant public education, the need for colonizing Indonesia for the well being of Holland, etc. Part of being the “anti-revolutionary party” in the name of the party itself is that it does not support the removal of the Monarchy in Holland. I think that probably seem very right wing by today’s standards!
Furthermore we sometime have historical amnesia and think our age is the first to have anarchists and revolutionaries; the late 1800s to early 1900s was a time of many anarachists and revolutionaries acting out whether individually or in small secret societies and more European royalties and their families were assassinated in that time period by their subjects than any other time period in European history culminating with the murder of the Archduke of the Austrian empire that of course led to WW1. So Bavinck’s and Kuyper’s “anti-revolutionary” party was yes a Christianized version of Classical Liberalism in the sense of being pro-law and order and the need for rules of law as a precondition for capitalism but it was also a stance against a very real dangerous radical left of their day. So this meme doesn’t do justice with the greater context of political ideology and development. But it does reflect the attitude of some today who think Bavinck will support their more left leaning political views. This past summer I remember reading somewhere which Bavinck was invoke that if he was alive today he would have much to criticize American political system today; that might be true but it struck me as ironic that there’s an elephant in the room with Bavinck’s anti-revolutionary party would not have been in favor of today’s radical left leaning poltical strategies and the writer wasn’t telling the full story given Bavinck’s leadership with a political party that took a anti-revolutionary stance. It was an one-sided historical account.
Another note. I imagine some today who are fans of Bavinck in academia might have politically progressive sympathies in our contemporary time period but we have to be cautious to assume and read back that as an attribute of Bavinck merely from that observation. That would be a historical fallacy; as an analogy note also how those who are second or third generation followers of another Dutch Reformed theologian/philosopher name Doyeeweerd are politically more left leaning but we shouldn’t attribute that to Doyeeweerd back then.
I also think that those who today sometime speak about Bavinck’s political idea for today might also need to be in conversation with political scientists and political historian of Dutch and European political thoughts concerning the milieu that Bavinck was working with, just as much as today we see the need to study and know the background of Bavinck and Vos to grasp Van Til. I believe there is much to mine and benefit from Kuyper and Bavinck both in Sytematic theology and Christian view of culture but I think the rigor for the political thought background is not as strong by those who want to make Bavinck seem left-leaning.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr 🙂
What a crazy time with a lot of exaggerations, half-truths, over-generalization, equivocations and flat out lies, no?
Honestly Jim, I’m stunned how quick Tim Keller went down the ‘woke’ hole. He sold out quick and hard. To be fair though, I saw quotes from him for years that sounded “squishy” to me. So, perhaps the journey wasn’t that long. :-\
Very, very good, Jim. I see that Jon Harris has pulled up Ray Ortland for something similar. Harris calls these evangelicals “Elites.” See his YouTube Channel “Conversations that Matter.”
Will look it up! If you have the Youtube linked on Zeteo or mac-eschatology site(s), feel free to drop a link in the comment on here so others can go to your site!
Here’s the link. I’ve found Jon to be very level-headed – a good logical thinker.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ConversationsThatMatterpodcast/videos
Thanks for the insight. Very helpful! I will have to learn more about Bavinck.
Blessings.
Similarly, I have seen both conservatives and liberals (politically) use Bonhoeffer as an example for their stance. It is ironic due to the more liberal using him to push for some form of socialism (which he adamantly fought), or more conservative using him for his theology (which was heading toward universalism and ecumenism with poor theological systems, i.e. Rome and the budding Charismatic movement with the early emphasis on signs and wonders as proof of conversion) against liberal theology tied to social justice. Brilliant man with some excellent teachings, but used by too many for the wrong reasons, like with Bavinck.
You know that’s interesting you brought up Bonhoeffer. He’s probably more appropriated for different political causes than Bavinck. Good information that you shared in your comment. Always grateful for your insights and commentary!
Thank you for introducing us to Bavinck, Jim! This for me seems to be an appetizer article to check again on Political Theory (it has been almost 2 decades). Blessings to you, Nancy, and your kid!
I was thinking of you writing and editing the post last night largely because of your background and knowledge of crisis intervention, government structures and organizations. You have shared some great insights from that world during our leadership series on my blog and during Bible study. Hope you get well rested with your sleep as I write this! Blessings to you in every sphere of life brother!
Thank you for your kind words, Jim;much appreciated! I get to sleep early starting last night.
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Not knowing much about Bavink, this post provides an excellent perspective. Thanks Pastor Jim, Blessings!!
BTW, on Bavinck, this is a great book:
https://www.heritagebooks.org/products/the-wonderful-works-of-god-bavinck.html
I wish we could just stick with” Jesus loves me….This I know”.
Amen! I have been praying for you, feel free to email me an update, but no pressure!
Will do…thanks.
“Historical amnesia” says it all. Such an absolute farce. Context is king in all areas of life and whether it is Scripture or theologians and philosophers of yesteryear knowing the time period in which they wrote and the people in which they associated with only helps to give more insight into said person. God is not amused by our “historical amnesia” nor is he amused with how we are twisting ideas, thoughts and concepts to fit current political agendas (this goes for both sides). Thank you brother for this post. I appreciate your commitment to speak Truth to our dying, decaying and putrid culture. Enjoy your day off. Lots of love, hugs and blessings to you, Nancy and kiddos!
Context matters in many spheres not just the Bible! We are living in a day and age with more access online to facts for research but ironically we also see a lot of spread of half truths, misrepresentation and sometimes outright lies. Have you been able to enjoy more time outside on the outdoor furniture? Do you have more discussion or silent reading sitting on it?
Totally agree with your statement! Yes I have! Your Nahum book is fantastic! I have been savoring each chapter and discussion question outside. Definitely more personal time reading or talking on phone/texting because Nathan’s at work. When Nathan is home, we enjoy being outside and listening to the birds! We also have a lot of our meals out here as well. Do y’all like to garden or sit outside? I know y’all walk but wasn’t sure if y’all just relaxed outside?!
Very few who read or pass along memes are such scholars as you.
Thanks. I must say in light of this theme of facts and truths I appreciate your blog for all the fact based information you share. Keep up the good work sister.
Good work! Our celeb evangellyfish are nothing like their forebears.
Thanks for reading this Sir! Much truth with your comment, hope you are doing well Paul
Very cool, Slim! Believe it or not, I was actually just pondering the crisis of meaning we are currently experiencing in our culture and how that is leading some people to be drawn to the Dutch reformers. I think we forget sometimes that there is nothing new under the sun. As you’ve written, “we sometime have historical amnesia and think our age is the first to have anarchists and revolutionaries…”
Something that concerns me is that the church overall is very fear based. That’s what it means when you fear either the alleged woke or you fear the alleged Christian nationalists. It doesn’t really matter whether we are fearing liberals or righties, it’s still all fear. Fear is the opposite of faith. In this meme, Tim Keller is the perceived threat. The thing is, if we actually fear God as we should, then we become impervious to crazy ideologies. Ephesians tells us, “we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.”
You are right we often are fear based. Social media have shown the difficulty of the fine line with discernment/warning versus fear mongering and downright paranoia and conspiracy theory. I try to make most of my posts a positive teaching of Scripture more than overly negative focus of what’s wrong…not easy when one loves apologetics!
This discussion of theologian Herman Bavinck is, no surprise, way over my T-101 head! His Wiki article wasn’t that helpful, but the article below from your favorite magazine 🙂 gave me a grounding.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/january-web-only/herman-bavinck-critical-biography-james-eglinton.html
Wow Christianity Astray! I have not read that bio yet but people have been giving glowing review. How is your R and R day today?
RE: R&R
Ah! Besides a routine MD visit in the AM I’m loving the couch today. Tried to take a nap because I couldn’t keep my 👀s open but couldn’t sleep. Nothing but couch from now until lights-out!
How’s your day going?
Very well said, Jim. I really like what you said here…
“So Bavinck’s and Kuyper’s “anti-revolutionary” party was yes a Christianized version of Classical Liberalism in the sense of being pro-law and order and the need for rules of law as a precondition for capitalism but it was also a stance against a very real dangerous radical left of their day. So this meme doesn’t do justice with the greater context of political ideology and development.”
This point brings out the importance of understanding the difference between classic liberalism and leftist Marxism (or Anarchism in their day). This is also why we, as followers of Christ, need to stop politicizing things and talk about ideologies and world views instead. We also need to think critically, as you have done so well here.
The classic liberal can be conservative theologically, yet emphasize the love and grace of God. Classic liberals love America as much as classic conservatives do. Even athiest liberals, in this category, love free speech. As you said, classic conservatives emphasize rule of law and conserving values that have passed the test of time. We may disagree with the other’s solutions, but we can talk about it and, hopefully, find a common ground.
Jesus was both liberal and conservative (or neither), which is why everyone wants to use Him to authenticate their own views. That’s human nature. But we actually need both sides for a healthy society, which is why tribalism is so unhealthy.
To your point here, the real enemies are ideologies that divide us and destroy life, like Marxism. There is nothing “Christian” about Marxist socialisim; it’s anti-Christ in the sense that it offers an alternative to Christ and His kingdom. It’s us making bricks to build our own Tower of Babel utopia. It’s actually an evil cancer wherever it’s allowed to spread.
Sorry for the long comment, but this is so important right now. We need to get this right, and understand the battlelines, if we want to be effective in being salt and light to our world. Thanks for helping us think through this.
Excellent comment. I think Classic Liberals seems to be a dying breed today and also many of my generation and younger don’t even really what it is. I remember being a Political Science student even other students in my field discovering it for the first time and sadly it was critiqued uncharitably through the lens of Critical Theory. It took me a while to write this post; how long do you spend for you posts on these matter, since you write rather nuanced, and I imagine you spent some time and effort into those posts?
The classic liberal now is now a moderate or libertarian. Many of them have left the Democratic party. But, as I said, I’m not so much interested in what political party people are from. It confuses the issue and is too tribal.
As far as how much time I spend, it depends. Some of my more technical posts on ideology or theology require a lot of research and digging and I will release posts from that research as I go. Many of my posts come inspirations from my daily devotional reading of Scripture and relationship with Jesus. Those might be written in a couple of hours. But even those, I’ve processed the general ideas for years.
Thanks for the introduction to Herman Bavinck. It is my firm belief that there will be a day of accountability for the neglect of the unadulterated Gospel for the idol of politics…whatever side it exists. “For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire (1 Cor 3:11-15).
“Jesus is portrayed as this beta male Vegan hippy pacifist who drink latte soy milk and is a woke SJW New Age Eastern mysticism guru”
That is what many today think Jesus is!
Jim, I appreciated your discussion. I am not familiar with Bavinck’s writings, but I agree that we need to pay better attention to history–both Biblical and secular. When people jump aboard the proverbial bandwagon, they may be riding on the wrong vehicle.
I do not like memes.
I do not know that much about Bavinck, but you are correct in raising concerns about revising and falsely utilizing people from the past to promote ideologies of today. Thank you.
Thanks for reading this; these days I think we all need to be careful with memes and also be slow to believe even things like what the mainstream media tells us out of a desire to be discerning. Have a blessed Tuesday!
So true. You as well.
Thank you.
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I looked through this one with interest. My wife’s father was a Dutchman and they lived in Holland on two occasions before moving to the USA (El Paso, TX once they got a sponsor). And, I like Timothy Keller. He makes me think. But the first Bible study that we had at our church by Keller turned me off. He was calling for people to choose their city and go there to spread the Gospel. I am a country boy at heart and I avoid the city with a passion, even though a sign near our house says Pittsburgh 14, less if I were a bird.
I won’t be surprised after this article some what to cancel Bavinck for not being woke enough
Totally agree with you Slimjim God bless ✝️