Author and law student Joel McDurmon has done a series of videos criticizing Voddie Baucham’s book, titled Fault Lines, and the book raises concern with woke ideology infiltrating the church. Over at Youtube, McDurmon’s first video can be found titled “Review of Voddie Baucham, Fault Lines – Definitions and Meanings – Part One.” I have written a response to one of McDurmon’s claims here: “Antonio Gramsci is not a Marxist? Response to Joel McDurmon.” I also see that Kevin Johnson has written a series of posts responding to McDurmon here that is worth looking into and reading.
Here in this post I want to respond to one of McDurmon’s claims that has not received much attention. McDurmon claimed Voddie had a quote about Critical Race Theory that is not from any school, not even a high school.
This video clip here is an excerpt from 1 hour 18 minutes 28 seconds to 1 hour 21 minute and 7 seconds:
Here’s the transcript of the video and I highlighted the part in bold that I want to focus on:
And so here’s a quotation he puts up as a definition of what critical race theory is, in their own words. And he says, according to the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs. (And let me have it on the screen version here). Quote:
CRT recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American Society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture. This is the analytical lens that CRT uses in examining existing power structures. CRT identifies that these power structures are based on white privilege and white supremacy. Which perpetuates the marginalization of the people of color. CRT also rejects the traditions of liberalism and meritocracy. Legal discourse says that the law is neutral, color blind. However, CRT challenges this legal quote truth, by examining liberalism and meritocracy as a vehicle for self-interest, power, and privilege. He goes on, Voddie adds, many discussions of CRT have referenced this definition and with good reason.
And he goes on to give his reasons, for that which are not necessarily substantial to the point). According to the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs, this is the definition of CRT. And many people have used this definition. The problem with this is that this claim is not from the UCLA Luskin School of Affairs. It’s not from UCLA. It’s not from any school of Public Affairs. It’s not from any university school, period. It’s not even from any official school, high school, period. It’s not from any school! This quotation came from a side website, created by a group of students in one part of the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs. It’s not sanctioned by the school. It’s not sanctioned by any professor. It is not put forth as a definition of CRT. Now, stop at that point right there.
Here is my take:
- I checked Voddie’s book and I agree with Joel that the quote Voddie had given was from a student-run site and not the actual UCLA school site. You can check out the archived link here that Voddie referenced. One can see the heading on that site said “UCLA School of Public Affairs | Critical Race Theory” and no doubt that probably led people to think it’s the official school page. Two things though gave it away to me that this is not an official UCLA site: First off the domain name includes “wordpress.com” which shows this is a blog. Second I’m a UCLA alumni and when I looked up the link I didn’t see the typical light blue, blue and yellow color of the school as you see on UCLA website. Plus it didn’t have the “.ucla.edu” in the domain name. I think Voddie should have gotten a quote that wasn’t from students to describe Critical Race Theory. I attribute this to Voddie making a mistake and don’t think this is foul play on Voddie’s part.
- Joel McDurmon said what Voddie quoted is not a definition of CRT. Here would have been a good opportunity for McDurmon to give a definition of CRT. But McDurmon doesn’t give a definition of CRT here.
- While McDurmon said Voddie’s quote wasn’t a definition later in the video in 1:27:26-1:27:36 of the first video McDurmon did say the webpage that Voddie quoted from did give tenets of Critical Race Theory and that “tenets are definitional, but they are not definitions.” I don’t want to debate what is “definitional” and “definition” but I do think Voddie’s quote does provide a DESCRIPTION of Critical Race Theory.
- The crux of the matter is if the description Voddie quoted is something others who are Critical Race Theorists and those favorable/adjacent of Critical Race Theory would see and use these descriptions for Critical Race Theory. Joel McDurmon said that this quote is nothing more than students opinions. And his argument for that is that no schools whatsoever have used these descriptions. Remember what Joel said “It’s not from any university school, period. It’s not even from any official school, high school, period. It’s not from any school!” But this is not true. Brandman University has a college course titled “Let’s Talk About Race” (Course ID: #563) and one should look at their class’ syllabus here (just in case, I archived the page here too). In my screenshot below I highlighted the section that is exactly word for word with what Voddie quoted from the student’s webpage and we see how those words are a part of a school’s syllabus:
This is word for word with what Voddie quoted: “CRT recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American Society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture. This is the analytical lens that CRT uses in examining existing power structures. CRT identifies that these power structures are based on white privilege and white supremacy.” That’s 59 words that’s exactly the same in the exact same order as that of the webpage that Voddie quoted. So McDurmon is clearly wrong. McDurmon is wrong to say “It’s not from any university school, period. It’s not even from any official school, high school, period. It’s not from any school!”
- For greater context Brandman University is an accredited university and their “Let’s Talk about Race” course is esteemed enough that Epoch Education gave a link to Brandman University’s course on their website; check it out here. Epoch Education has even partnered with Brandman University in helping the University’s graduate courses on the subject of racism, race and race relations; see here. What is Epoch Education? They are an organization who provides educational consultants and courses to promote diversity, equity and inclusion as mentioned in their “About Us” page. Epoch Education themselves have an educational series on what is Critical Race Theory; see here, here and here. Their founder, Nancy Dome according to her Linked-In profile, has a masters and doctorate in the field of education. I know McDurmon talked about Critical Race Theory as a legal discipline, but Critical Race Theory has spread into other areas and discipline, such as education; consider for example the book Handbook of Critical Race Theory in Education authored by Marvin Lynn and Adrienne D. Dixson. I’m bringing this up to make the point that there is an accredited university that uses the quote that Joel McDurmon said is not found in any school, and that university works with an organization that sees Critical Race Theory in a positive light and teaches it.
- It is hard to know for sure the relationship of Brandman University’s course (and its instructor), the student website that has the quote (and who wrote the quote on that site) and UCLA (specifically the School of Public Affairs). I don’t know if both the student site and Brandman Univerity is actually quoting from some source we don’t see that is authentically from UCLA, or if one of the students from that website played any role in writing the syllabus for Brandman University’s course. I personally don’t want to go down the road that the syllabus for Brandman University’s course was plagiarized from that student’s website. Regardless of what the relationship is, it’s clear that the description Voddie quoted is somehow seen as a true enough description that it is found in a university website; one that works with an organization that claims to know Critical Race Theory enough to make videos on it and maybe even teaching it in their curriculum and courses. Even the extreme possibility I mentioned that Brandman University somehow took those 59 words directly from the student’s webpage, it must have been seen as a good description for someone writing a syllabus for a college course to use them for a class syllabus word for word. So Voddie’s use of the quote as a description of Critical Race Theory isn’t as far out there as McDurmon might make his listeners think; though of course Voddie should have quoted from a better source than a student website. But don’t miss the main point that McDurmon is wrong to say this quote is never used at all by any school.
- One last note. Joel McDurmon in the first video said in the time stamp 1:28:38-1:28:57 that he (McDurmon) is good with google and he couldn’t find the quotation Voddie has anywhere online except for two places and one of them is a Facebook post with “almost zero interactions.” I went and did a search myself on Facebook and found McDurmon making another inaccurate claim. I found the same 59 words quote describing what is Critical Race Theory that we saw in the student’s webpage and Brandman University’s syllabus on more than two Facebook posts prior to 2020. Here is one of them and it clearly is one that has a lot of interactions (at the moment I wrote this it has 60 likes, 4 comments, 29 shares on a Facebook Page called “Daily Black History Facts” that has 83,009 people liked the page and 87,716 people follow the page.
The post was written on October 5th 2014 and it says the same thing Voddie said: “According to the UCLA School of Public Affairs: “CRT recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture. This is the analytical lens that CRT uses in examining existing power structures. CRT identifies that these power structures are based on white privilege and white supremacy, which perpetuates the marginalization of people of color.”” Note that I’m not citing the Facebook post to say this quote is authentically from UCLA since this facebook page might have used the same student website; but we see that yet again McDurmon is mistaken to say that the alleged quote from UCLA school of Public Affairs is only quoted only by a Facebook page that has zero interactions as a way to further make Voddie look ridiculous. If the Facebook post I cited used an unknown official UCLA source then this shows why this quote was attributed to UCLA school of Public Affairs; but if the Facebook post I cited was using the same student website as a source, then we see Voddie is not the only one who made the same mistake; and this is coming from a Facebook page that isn’t against CRT but instead is sympathetic to Derrick Bell, an important founding figure of Critical Race Theory. So its not as ridiculous as McDurmon makes Voddie out to be.
In summary while Voddie could have used a better source to give us a quote describing Critical Race Theory still the content of the quote itself is found word for word in an actual university syllabus, contradicting McDurmon’s claim that this isn’t found or used by any school. There will be of course Critical Race Theorists who disagree with some of the wordings of the quote and that’s to be expected from a movement that claims to be not monolithic. This post is not about that disagreement. Rather there are those who are sympathetic to Critical Race Theory and even teach Critical Race Theory who found the words Voddie quoted to be accurate enough of a description of Critical Race Theory to utilize it.
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Thanks for the great insight. Very well researched. I am a big fan of Voddie’s. Blessings.
Good research!
Thanks Michael for reading this
Thanks for doing the research..
You’re welcome! I enjoy it though it takes a long time. It is made more enjoyable when others read it! So thank you brother.
Wow! You did an extensive amount of research in digging into this controversy. Thanks for rebutting the not-entirely-accurate accusation. As a history buff, I really enjoy digging beneath the hagiographical accounts I was presented as a student back in the 60s and 70s. CRT takes it to the opposite extreme. The church gets into trouble when it espouses/aligns with either hagiographical or radically critical social/historical views. I’ve posted several posts that were critical of aspects of American political and church history and have always appreciated your balanced responses. I think some might have thought I was pro-CRT.
I agree with you on the need to go over history accurately and factually and not fall for the ditch of two extremes: a whitewashed hagiography or a view of America as always wrong without understanding the context, other factors and also how America progressed; usually such extreme have a bad understanding of economics, institutional development, or even what actually happened. Yeah I know what you mean people might mistaken us for one extreme camp or the other; this upcoming weekend I’m going to post a review of a book that I think did a good job looking at American racist past in accurate light. How is your day so far?? Painting and listening to things??
Looking forward to the review!
RE: Day
I painted trim on a section of the house for about three hours. It started to drizzle but the rain held off. I have to go to the realty office at 4 to review the offers on my sister’s house. There’s at least three. No idea if they’re above or below the asking price. I suspect below because so few. When I get home it’s couch duty until lights out.
What’s going on with your Thursday?
I agree with these comments brother, such meticulous research! What a shame they put this godly man’s work under a microscope and miss his life’s message, the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
They miss the truth that would save them!
Thanks for the encouragement sister Lisa. I am glad you noticed the research that went behind this. It took me a long time and also it took time to think through things logically, and as fairly and as charitably while also being critical as well. I’m exhausted and now look forward to studying the Word today! But I think this post needs to be written. Anything I can pray for my NY praying partner in ministry?
Thank you brother for asking. This morning I had a dream, in it I was speaking to a pastor and said, “I’m here in NY to fulfill whatever God’s plan is for me”
Thats my heart, so could you pray for the Lord’s leadership in serving Him? Also, i went to a very small church on Sunday, seems to be a godly church, could you pray for discernment for me and my husband?
Third, soon we’ll be spending 2-3 weeks at my parents, my mom is having surgery. They are 90yrs old but not believers. Could you pray for God’s guidance while we’re there? We’ve shared the Gospel many times.
Thank you brother! I hope i didn’t overspeak!
I commend your careful and painstakingly research and presentation.
Thank you Crissy. What can I pray for you for this upcoming weekend?
A very clever bit of sleuthing and a thorough takedown of McDurmon’s dismissal of Baucham’s CRT description. And you’re right, his unwillingness to proffer an “authoritative”definition of CRT in contrast to Baucham’s quote suggests to me that Baucham hit the nail on the head. I appreciate your keeping us informed on the ways in which the church needs to be alert to those who would destroy its unity in Christ Jesus.
pax,
dora
Thanks Dora for reading this. I’m always encouraged how informed you typically are with things, always edified to know there are sound believers. Have a blessed day, I prayed for that for you for the remainder of your Thursday!
Thank you brother for your prayer. Be assured you are in mine. :>)
Hey, Jimmy! I looked at the archived student run blog. I know you don’t want to debate definitions so forgive me for saying that in my worldview, he who defines the terms wins. I would love to ask McDurmon since when did college students voices cease to matter?! In this time of collegiate cancel culture, students have more power and say than ever. Both in conservative and liberal colleges. Yes, Baucham absolutely should have used a more credible source; however, for McDurmon to harp on this and yet not give his own definition is really low hanging fruit. What a fascinating time we live in! Definitions, narratives and worldviews are definitely at play (and in constant flux!) praise God He stable, consistent and victorious. Blessings to you and the fam!!!
Mandy you are right to observe whoever define the term has the advantage. My wife read this and brought up the same thing as you did: We must be careful to not dismiss something from students per se. I’m kind of bias, I think these students were probably very smart not only because the school they went to but I also think McDurmon might assume the student page is nothing but an ordinary college student project but it seems to be more than that, it seem to be a legitimate endeavor to be interdisciplinary and have training from advisors from UCLA faculty that are involved with teaching race issues, etc, as gleamed from that site. I have done some more digging today since I made this post and found there were other references to this students’ page or the quote and attributing this to UCLA so its not as far out there for Voddie to use that quote as McDurmon made it out to be. Thank you Mandy for your thoughts and reflection. I rejoice alongside with you in our God Mandy! How did the day go?
Praise God Nancy had the same thoughts! If I may ask, do you write most of your post on the day you post them or do you write them and schedule when to post? Good but exhausting day! I had a heck of a time this week writing on Psalm 119. There is so much richness and beauty in verses 57-64. Whenever you read the post, it would be great if you included a link to this week’s attribute of God’s grace. How is your day? How is your weather? Are the fires still north of y’all?
Well said.
Thanks Maw Maw! Hope it ain’t too humid in the Bayou!! 😃😀
No, Dry.:)
I’m responding a bit late here…
As I was initially reading your post yesterday, seeing McDurmon’s quote (bold), I immediately thought, “this guy is implicitly claiming something just short of omniscience, while simultaneously setting himself up to be refuted.” That is, ironically, while going overboard in trying to prove his point (that Baucham sourced from a student organization peripheral to UCLA, as opposed to the school itself), he is making the implicit claim that he knows each and every school’s specific verbiage with respect to CRT, a claim impossible for him to substantiate; and, furthermore, all it takes is one example of a school using this specific verbiage to refute him. Bravo for refuting him!
Craig you hit it on the nail. I’m often cautious with people making a universal negative claim with historical manner in a debate and that’s what led me to look it up what he said and how this post was born. Epistemic humility is an important virtue in how we argue, and I thought that was a good personal lesson I got out of writing this post! Excellent you brought that up Craig, God bless you! Have a blessed Friday more than you expected!
And same to you!
Reblogged this on The Culture Alternative and commented:
Check out this thoughtful insight by brother SlimJim. CRT is in the news a lot. Jim helps us navigate through the intricacies.
Great post, Jim. Well documented rebuttal and critically important. It’s sad that so many Christians are duped by CRT.
All you have to do is read their own books to see CRT for the evil ideology that it really is. In “Critical Race Theory: An Introduction” (Delgado/Stefancic). You can read the book’s introduction here:
Click to access Delgado_and_Stefancic_on_Critical_Race_Theory.pdf
A couple of direct quotes from the introduction:
“As the reader will see, critical race theory builds on the insights of two previous movements, critical legal studies and radical feminism, to both of which it owes a large debt. It also draws from certain European philosophers and theorists, such as Antonio Gramsci and Jacques Derrida, as well as from the American radical tradition exemplified by such figures as Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass, W.E.B. Du Bois, Cesar Chavez, Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Black Power and Chicano movements of the sixties and early seventies.”
As the reader will see, with the exception of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Fredrick Dougleass, CRT builds on the neo-Marxist radicals of the 20th century! Gramsci and Derrida would be at the top of that list. Gramsci could be considered the Godfather of neo-Marxism, and Derrida one of the fathers of Postmodernism.
Under heading: “What is Critical Race Theory?”
“Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law.”
In other words, they are against progress, equality, reasoning, and the Constitition in general!
Under heading: “Basic Tenets of Critical Race Theory”
“First, that racism is ordinary, not aberrational—”normal science,” the usual way society does business, the common, everyday experience of most people of color in this country. Second, most would agree that our system of white-over-color ascendancy serves important purposes, both psychic and material.”
I don’t have this particular quote in front of me but I believe on page 7 (first edition) of this book it says, “Racism is the ordinary state of affairs in society….”
CRT, in a nutshell, believes that the fundamental principal is society is racism that was created by white people for their own benefit. It’s pure cultural Marxism under the veil of race.
Thanks for your comment. I have the third edition of Delgado’s introductory book and it does state Racism is ordinary in the introductory or first chapter.
Good point in pointing out the ideological roots of CRT. I’m going to be reading a Christian Presuppositionalist critique of Jacques Derrida’s philosophy by a capable Christian Reformed philosopher and hope in the next few weeks I can post a review of it. Some of the influences driving CRT should make Christians cautious and practice discernment and even bring refutations to bear. Have a blessed day brother!
I have to admit that I know very little about CRT. Teaching in the public school setting for 40 years left me unprepared for the recent brouhaha about this topic.
Seems like you did your research. Joel, not so much. Some of the most racist people are those who are defenders of CRT. The gross generalization would be deemed racists if one use the same rhetoric for other ethnic groups anywhere else.