Point: If God does not exist then our thoughts cannot have information. How do we convey the idea to someone we are talking to?
Picture: If information does not come from God, and information is the result of randomness/chance/non-intentionality and not from a Person who created the world to have ability to have information then that view of the world destroys information being meaningful.
Consider this scenario: There’s a spin the wheel app that contain letters of the English Alphabet. The spinning of the wheel is random. Let’s say someone spins the wheel and it says “This is random and every sentence from the spin the wheel is not designed.” How would you respond?
There’s a dilemma here. It obviously is a sentence with information. That information has truth value (true or false). But if it is from chance/randomness then there’s no reason to believe it. Yet if this sentence is meaningful it is also false (it is self-refuting).
I think this captures the dilemma of an non-theistic worldview. The world is not designed from God and God’s Mind. So in such a worldview this a chance driven world. This include the mind and what the mind produces, specifically statements and propositions. But if the mind is the product of chance and non-intentional forces and factors then it makes statements and propositions with information arbitrary; it makes any utterances and statements nothing more than coincidental, and it isn’t truly information based upon what’s out there in reality. This is a worldview level problem.
POSSIBLE SCENARIO FOR EMPLOYING THIS ILLUSTRATION DURING APOLOGETIC EVANGELISM
NON-CHRISTIAN: Can you explain to me why you keep on thinking an atheistic worldview destroys information?
CHRISTIAN: Let me try. Do you believe believe God has nothing to do with information right?
NON-CHRISTIAN: Correct.
CHRISTIAN: Now let me mention a scenario. <INSERT ILLUSTRATION>. Do you think the arrangement of the word from spinning the wheel is actually information?
NON-CHRISTIAN: It is. One can make sense of the sentence’s meaning.
CHRISTIAN: That’s true. But notice to do so you have to reject the assumption that it is the result of randomness since randomness makes the sentence unintelligible. Thus what you professes about the nature of information would destroy the possibility of information itself; yet even to communicate right now shows you don’t fully believe and commit to your professed worldview either!
The Domain for Truth 
This mirrors some of the reasons that I saw behind some of the violence.
If we tell children (especially hormone-addled boys who are trying to come to terms with the world) that:
1. They should believe in science over things deemed non-scientific (like religion), but
2. One “science” (evolution) tells them that the origin of life came from disorder to order (defying Newton’s Second Law of Thermodynamics that says all things go from order to disorder)
3. They really have no worth (since they are continually told that the life of a baby is a girl’s “choice”)
4. We then dose them with ritalin or adderall or some other mind-altering drug in an attempt to make them something they are not
5. We make violent video games a mainstay of the teenage years
THEN how can we expect them to act any way but violently?
Excuse my off-topic rant.
You are right Mark; those 5 points aren’t good for the kids; on top of that a culture that is teaching marriage commitment and parenting isn’t Important, that deadbeat dads isn’t something of a shame (many of these shooters have bad fathers) and narcissism as the spirit of this age and our society produce these shooters…you are on point brother and not tangent at all
The secular left provides the ingredients of mass killers
Not PC but true
Good illustration: “Let’s say someone spins the wheel and it says “This is random and every sentence from the spin the wheel is not designed.” How would you respond?”
Thanks for reading this brother Frank. Always appreciate your support, may you have a blessed Tuesday!
Excellent insight. Thanks for making it happen.
Shalom!
Good illustration! When it comes to knowledge and morality, the atheist plagiarizes the Christian worldview.
Well said: “ When it comes to knowledge and morality, the atheist plagiarizes the Christian worldview.”. Amen. How is the weather on your neck of the woods today??? Warmer???
Thanks! It’s been cool the last couple of days in ROC, only 67F right now. How is it in SoCal?
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Atheism makes everything meaningless and absurd
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Atheism says everything is ultimately nonrational. It’s not a rational worldview according to their own beliefs
Baam!
I’ll ask the atheist by what standard. But this goes further to show the atheist problem
Fantastic message!
Thank you sister for the encouragement! Sadly WordPress had your comment in spam and just found this! Blessings to you as you blog for Christ
Truly self refuting
Truly self refuting indeed!
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This one can be easily used against the atheist right away
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