Over the years online there have been brothers in sisters online who want to find solid sound Bible teaching churches but there’s not much option nearby where they live. On various social media platforms I have found many of these precious saints and I feel for them and pray for them. Some of these individuals were previously in churches that can have great programs, and a church that is sociable. But the importance of the church being sound in doctrine matters. So these believer leave in search of a church that is Bible preaching and has sound biblical doctrines.
Now I know fellowship and sound teaching shouldn’t be mutually exclusive; and a healthy church would have both; and the relationship of the two would be sound Bible teaching drives the fellowship; that is, sound teaching is the basis of the fellowship. How? In the sense of the basis for unity and what is talked about, and sound doctrine is use for encouragement to one another. But sometimes in our sin effected world, there’s a break and a gap between doctrines and fellowship.
In fact sometimes churches that are weak in doctrines or are not conscious of what the Bible teaches as applied to social interaction can technically be very sociable but the social interaction might not be fellowship or is a weak fellowship, at least in the biblical sense as I described it in the previous paragraph. I think of when I was in high school showing up at a big church’s youth group and Tuesday night is their “fellowship” night and there was board games, video games and basketball but after a while I asked the youth pastor when does the Bible study start and he said not tonight and with the big youth pastor grin he said “Tonight’s fellowship night!” There’s places to hang out but if every Tuesday night is that kind of fellowship night actually fellowship?
So there are times God might put two options before an individual and their family: There is a church with sound doctrines but it can improve on the fellowship, or a church with weak doctrines but there’s a lot of socializing/social activity. Which ones do you pick?
I bring this up because I’m a pastor of a small church. I think we have sound doctrinal teaching. (Some of those teachings makes their way into this blog). But we are a small fellowship and with the way things are going economically in my area people have to move further and further away from the area for their job or have somewhere to live that’s reasonable (and I’m not only talking about purchasing a home either). Fellowship gets harder and then having kids makes it harder still for those who moved away. Every Sunday I don’t take these individuals for granted who travel so far for the teaching. In addition we also have a number of special needs and individuals with mental health. These individuals social interaction are consistent with behavior of those have special needs. I also think there are also others who are socially awkward.
Among Christians that visit looking for a home church there seems to be two kinds of people who visit the church: Those who show up for God’s Word as the priority, and those that show up for other things besides God’s Word as their priority. The second group might even agree the preaching of the Bible is important. But its not their first thing.
The two responses to our church from the two different groups seems to be exactly opposite. For those who are looking for sound teaching, you can see their joy after the Word has been taught. Its generally very very encouraging for all of us with these individuals. For those who are the opposite, who are not there for the Word of God first, there can be a lot of complaining. Like a lot of complaining. What’s sad is unchecked complaints often can snowball into unfounded complaints, that are not only inaccurate but very unedifying. By unfounded I mean that they think our church aren’t doing certain things because they haven’t seen it happened before their very eyes. For those who are into apologetics, there’s the saying that absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence. When it comes to church complaining some people can be worst than that: They complained about the church lacking something when its announced regularly at church that we have something for that. A complaining demeanor often narrows one’s vision to see what God might be doing, even if it is not what one’s expectation might be.
I am not writing this post to say my church doesn’t have issues with being socializing. I do think we have much to grow with growing in showing care, compassion and reaching out with one another outside of Sunday. Still I see slow changes that encourages me. When we first began greeting time during service it was only my wife and I walking to greet and talk to one another. Over many years that started to change. And part of that change sometimes was new people who came to the Church wanting to be there for the Word of God to feed their soul, these individuals went out of their comfort zone. I would not have thought it took that long for that kind of greeting to be normalized. In fact nothing I do in ministry ever went according to my timetable or time expectation.
But over the years I learned something from that. Slow changes sometimes reminds us that it was not by our own effort. It wasn’t just the leaders ingenuity or personality that got it going. I am convinced slow changes often happen when people finally internalize biblical truths and do things with the biblical motivation; not always, but its less suspect than swift changes, especially when the changes happen because one is following along with what others are doing. And in a church where the fellowship can be improved I think also when people change sometimes that is more clear its driven by the Word rather than sociological group comformity. This is not a defense for churches to have weak socializing; this is an observation that God is often working in ways we don’t expect or look for, and also for God to get the glory that any true lasting change really comes from His Word. As I look back at my life and recall the big campus ministries I was involved with in high school and college I also look back with sadness that some who were active were there with those ministries because there was so many people, because it was a place where things were “happening.” But I look back and wonder how many followed God after those time with our campus ministries; I really want it that it is God’s Word that change people and that people don’t get confused with group sociological expectation or even groups as a crutch for change, rather than the Word of God itself. It also makes me think about how God uses loneliness, uses isolation and also use group dynamic where we give more than we receive, of how God uses all that for our spiritual growth. Too often I think in America people’s model of spiritual growth is there is a small group where they are prized and loved, and valued, and top-down programmed and only then do they think they are growing. I think New Testament epistles suggests otherwise, through turmoil of a church the Lord is working. But God’s Word got to be front and central, the beacon of the Gospel and Christ being preached.
Good ppost, Jimmy!
So … which do we choose?
I choose both. If the teaching is good but the fellowship is lacking, I’ll try to initiate the kind of fellowship I’d like to see. If it’s the other way around, I will try to infuse the good fellowship with some good scriptural advice, testimonies, and information/reminders. I learned long ago not to look for a church to meet all my needs and complain when it doesn’t, but rather to look at what I can contribute to make the church I’m in more effective. (It’s not about me. 😉 )
That’s good. As I read this I think of the small church I’m each Sunday guess speaking. They have better fellowship than they do with the teaching but presently since they don’t have a pastor I’m trying to contribute what they lack. And what they also have publicly said they lack. Your spirit is one I wish more can have
Amen. Well said.
Thanks for reading this Bonnie!
Welcome, Mr. Jim
I agree: “any true lasting change really comes from His Word”. Those coming to hear should assume some of the responsibility for the fellowship.
Amen Frank
Great article and insight brother. The church I attend now has a great balance in solid preaching of the word and great interactions weekly with my brothers and sisters. Most of the churches I have gone to over the years have been this way. The only exception was when I lived in the Northeast (Syracuse) for 20 years. No focus on the scripture and surface level social interactions.
Thanks for your continued great ministry and the sensitivity you bring to Shepherding.
So many people want programs instead of the Word
Good post Pastor, I’m all in your last statement, “But God’s Word got to be front and central, the beacon of the Gospel and Christ being preached”.
We are in a small church also and I notice that people enjoy the coffee hour but my question is, will they come for a prayer meeting?
I think people are too accustomed to being an audience, not an active body, the Body of Jesus Christ.
If we realize we are owned by God, we will certainly long to hear from Him and take action to build His Kingdom.
Good question about the prayer meeting; for all the flaws and faults of our church, we have people in prayer meeting compared to years ago when it can be just myself and another brother. Prayer meeting is us talking to God what an opportunity! Thanks for sharing
“Slow changes sometimes reminds us that it was not by our own effort.” Amen and amen 1000 times over! While I am not a pastor, what you say is heavy on my heart too and something that I have brought to attention to my church and to my former church in the same denomination. While we excel at sound teaching, I think we are good at fellowship, where I think my church lacks is ministering to our immediate area of Judea and Samaria. Change is indeed slow and it’s not our effort but God’s. I could really hear your heart in this post, Jimmy! You are truly gifted with a shepherd’s heart and a theologian’s mind!
Thanks for your kind encouragement. I often do think about reaching our Judea and adjacent “Samaria” and it can be hard to slowly shepherd people to think that way. Blessings to you sister!
You address a difficult challenge. Faithfulness to correct teaching must be a high priority, but it can be hard to defend that position when people insist that the congregation would grow if only a few compromises could be introduced. Building a loving and encouraging Christian environment that puts Christ and His Word first takes time and effort, and you are to be congratulated for every bit of success you have achieved in that regard. Of course, in the end God builds the Church–we plant, we water, and God provides the growth. J.
Thanks for your comment. Every pastor wants a church culture that is an encouraging community. But to teach others the doctrine to then apply it is itself a full plate. You said it well what little changes for the better is God’s Grace
It’s easy to be discouraged when growth in the congregation does not measure up to our world-influenced standards. We want to be like Peter in Pentecost, bringing people into the Church by the thousands. Sometimes we are more like the Lord in Capernaum, shortly after he fed the five thousand, when we speak the truth and see the backs of those we were trying to bring into the Church. J.
It’s so tough, isn’t it? The times we are living in are hard, too. People are stressed out, we don’t really know how to have healthy relationships with one another anymore, and the church overall is constantly under attack.
The church also tends to have a lecture style of teaching and people often then become passive consumers. Something to keep in mind, people can intellectually have “sound doctrine,” they know all the right answers, but they’ve never applied any of it to their own lives.
As to fellowship, I like the vitamin B-1 rule. You have to “be one.” If there is not enough fellowship, you have to lead the way, be the fellowship.
You got a point there
Aww Jim, the complexity of people and there you are, among them, as their shepherd, and you care. Your observations are sound and you continue to work towards that, guiding and watering and the Lord gives the increase. Lead by example and you do that, and it’s rare. I often think of some of the things that the Apostle Paul went through, what his thoughts were about those he ministered to, and those who opposed him. Feed my flock is all that we can do, drawing on He who we feed on. I remember those who wept over Paul when they all knew they would see him no more. I remember when Paul felt all along, abandoned as it were. It’s Jesus, our Shepherd, who brings it all together, just stay faithful to Him, as you do, and the rest is up to Him. You are a dear Christian brother. How I wish I could be among your flock. Blessings brother.
Those are encouraging words and it means a lot coming from an older seasoned saint
I found this interesting reading Jim, and I Recognised my church…now my former church. The Bible preaching was second to none, but the social interaction was lacking. In fact there was nothing I could do to be included or have people talk to me. Basically I felt after several months I had done enough and could do no more. I am thankful to folk like yourself on WordPress who serve God faithfully, delivering good Biblical teaching and interacting with folk.
Wow thanks for sharing. This makes me realize this challenge is not just only in one place.
Thank you brother, I recently shared an interesting article about disability in the church on twitter (https://twitter.com/DevotionalTrea1/status/1564722937189617665?t=3J7n4T5-I_13mtazSg6WHw&s=19)
I think you may find this useful too. It was Andy Brown who shared it originally.
Even though I didn’t state it in my original comment, the attitude of able-bodied Christians at church was a factor in my deciding to leave.
Thanks for your good thoughts in this post. Good fellowship should blossom from good teaching. I’m an introvert so the teaching/preaching component was the most important for me. In the seeker/church-growth, mega-church movement doctrine is deliberately “dumbed down” and that is perpetuated in the follow-up, small group fellowship meetings. I can see where smaller churches are limited in the fellowship experiences they can offer.
I’m an introvert myself; I feel sometimes when there’s so much limitation I want to be an In-N-out Model with ministry: Do well with little and the main items rather than the mCdonalds model: many items but maybe quality isn’t what matters first
My heart goes out to any church that struggles with doing many things but still have the Word being preached
Provocative topic, and utterly relatable. Yes, the teaching is foundational and then we pray to be lovable and to be loved by those we worship with.
Amen. I do see how sound teaching then lead people to be more loving of others. The truth matters. Grateful to see you on WordPress again, I hope things are well with you, always a joy to have OPC members on WordPress 😃
Ah, the joke’s on you, my friend! I’m EPC. Don’t throw throw me out with the bathwater please!! 😅😂
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Jim, I appreciate your thoughtful and honest discussion. The core of any church will be the Gospel. It will strengthen the connections between these faithful followers and God.
I am in the midst of this. I’ve been apart of my small church for… about 4 years now. It’s a bit of a distance from my apartment but I keep going because it’s doctrines are sound and I receive solid, Biblical teaching. The trouble is this though: 98% of the congregation is married with tiny humans (children) (there are children of varying ages from toddlers to teenagers). It’s hard connecting to them and/or socializing as a single Christian who doesn’t know if she wants marriage or not. I’ve tried leaving the church altogether but I’m convinced the Father has me there for a reason because, despite the distance and difficulty of fostering community, I can’t seem to leave! 🙂
Wow. Thanks for sharing. I just prayed for your Rulonda with your church situation. That can’t be easy. Our church had a lot of singles in our small congregation for many years; we are now having more married couple. But those years of ministering to single people who were older also made me felt I should never forget singles in our church