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Point: Sometimes when one engage in apologetics the issue of alleged Bible contradiction comes up.  There are times when those who assert that there are contradictory and conflicting verses in the Bible reveal more about their biases than actual problem with the Bible itself since contextually the situation is really a case of “both/and” rather than an “either/or” contradiction with the Bible.

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Here’s a doctoral dissertation that Southern Seminary has made available titled “A Worldview Analysis of Sam Harris’ Philosophical Naturalism in The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values.”  It is a critique of atheist Sam Harris one of the “New Atheists.”  The dissertation was written by Mike Blackaby and was completed on December 23rd, 2016.

Here’s an abstract:

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Here is a collection of links on Presuppositional apologetics between May 8th-14th, 2014.

1.) Evidence for God: Messianic Prophecies

2.) All Four Volumes of John Frame’s Theology of Lordship Series

3.) Van Til quote: Beginning From Above

4.) ATHEISM: THE BELIEF THAT THERE IS NO GOD

5.) Why I Am an Atheist: A Conversation with Dr. Stephen Law

6.) Ultimate Authority

7.) Why I Changed from Classical to Presuppositional Apologetics

8.) Why Francis Schaeffer Matters: His Approach to Apologetics – Part 6

9.) Checkmate

 

Missed the last round up?  Check out the re-blogged post from a friend OR that of Another REBLOG HERE

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Yesterday I posted Who Is God? Trinity Debate: Dr. James White vs Bro. Joe Ventilacion.  This was a debate between Christian apologist James White and a defender of the cult Iglesia ni Cristo.  Iglesia ni Cristo denies the deity of Christ.

I want to address one of the arguments that Joe Ventilacion threw out there during his opening presentation for his anti-Trinitarian position.  He bases his argument from 1 Timothy 1:17 which states:

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

From this verse’s statement that God is immortal this is what Ventilacion argues around the 59:30 minute mark:

When Christ died, did God die?  And if he were to say that the second person only died but not the first and third persons, so for three days your Trinity is incomplete!  Because two are alive and one is dead.  So how would you call that?  How would you call that?  Is it a Trinity or is it a ‘Two-inity?’  It’s up to you to make that decision.  But he has an incomplete God for the three days that Jesus died.  Why did Jesus die?  Because Jesus is not the God of the Bible.

Despite Joe Ventilacion’s smirk and laughter from the audience from Iglesia ni Cristo members in the audience to the question of “When Christ died, did God die?” it is not as strong of an argument against the Trinity as they think it is.

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Note: Long overdue!  This is part two of our critique of atheist and skeptic Bart Ehrman’s attack on Jesus’ so called “Triumphant entry” into Jerusalem as found in Ehrman’s book Did Jesus Exist?  I’m four years late but I suppose it is better late than never.  I begin first with a presentation of Ehrman’s views which is followed by part two of my response.

 I. BART EHRMAN’S VIEW 

Ehrman’s rejects the historicity of Jesus’ so called Triumphant entry into Jerusalem that happened on “Palm Sunday”  during the final week of His life.

Bart Ehrman succinctly stated the argument for his conclusion on page 293:

Conversely, the likelihood of Jesus entering into Jerusalem straddling two donkeys and with the crowd shouting out that he was the messiah is decreased by the circumstance that had such an event really happened (unlikely as it is on its own terms), Jesus would no doubt have been arrested by the authorities on the spot instead of a week later.” (293)

And with a bit more extended comment Ehrman stated earlier on page 202:

If it is true that the crowds were shouting that Jesus was the messiah now arriving in the holy city, why didn’t the authorities immediately take notice and have him arrested both for causing a disturbance and for claiming to be the Jewish king (when only Rome could appoint the king)?  Instead, according to Matthew and the other Gospels, Jesus spent an unmoltested week in Jerusalem and only then was arrested and put on trial.  But it defies belief that the Roman authorities who were in town precisely in order to prevent any mob actions or uprisings would have failed to intervene if the crowds shouted in acclamation for a new ruler arriving in town” (202).

Ehrman’s argument is essentially that he can’t believe it took a full week after Jesus entered into Jerusalem in a Messianic fashion (with it’s political implication) before He was finally arrested and put on trial.  Ehrman’s reasoning is not without it’s problem.  One can group the problems into two basic categories: (1) Ehrman has not properly handled the Biblical data in his argument against the historicity of Jesus’ “Triumphant entry” and also (2) his argument that  in light of historical parallels.  We have already looked at the first set of problems in part one.  If you have not already done so, you might want to read part one first, which demonstrated that Ehrman has not properly handle the Biblical data.  Here in this post we will consider historical parallels of other Messianic figures as a rebuttal to his argument.

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Today’s post will tackle another question that the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: “Who buried Jesus?”

Here are three answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Joseph of Arimathaea

When it was evening, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus. 58 This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate ordered it to be given to him. 59 And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the entrance of the tomb and went away. (Matthew 27:37)

Joseph of Arimathea came, a prominent member of the Council, who himself was waiting for the kingdom of God; and he gathered up courage and went in before Pilate, and asked for the body of Jesus. 44 Pilate wondered if He was dead by this time, and summoning the centurion, he questioned him as to whether He was already dead. 45 And ascertaining this from the centurion, he granted the body to Joseph. 46 Joseph bought a linen cloth, took Him down, wrapped Him in the linen cloth and laid Him in a tomb which had been hewn out in the rock; and he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. (Mark 15:43-46)

And a man named Joseph, who was a member of the Council, a good and righteous man 51 (he had not consented to their plan and action), a man from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who was waiting for the kingdom of God; 52 this man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down and wrapped it in a linen cloth, and laid Him in a tomb cut into the rock, where no one had ever lain. (Luke 23:50-53)

Joseph of Arimathaea and Nicodemus

After these things Joseph of Arimathea, being a disciple of Jesus, but a secret one for fear of the Jews, asked Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus; and Pilate granted permission. So he came and took away His body. 39 Nicodemus, who had first come to Him by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds weight. 40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen wrappings with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews. 41 Now in the place where He was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb in which no one had yet been laid. 42 Therefore because of the Jewish day of preparation, since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there. (John 19:38-42)

The Jews and their rulers

For those who live in Jerusalem, and their rulers, recognizing neither Him nor the utterances of the prophets which are read every Sabbath, fulfilled these by condemning Him. 28 And though they found no ground for putting Him to death, they asked Pilate that He be executed. 29 When they had carried out all that was written concerning Him, they took Him down from the cross and laid Him in a tomb. (Acts 13:27-29)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

Here’s a closer look at whether or not there is a contradiction:

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Point: Sometimes in an apologetics’ discussion people give self-refuting arguments.  That is, the argument they present against the Christian worldview is actually refuting against their own position as well.  In such instances it might be important to stress to the other individual that their argument goes against their own worldview.

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