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Last Saturday I posted Who Is God? Trinity Debate: Dr. James White vs Bro. Joe Ventilacion.  This was a debate between Christian apologist James White and a Joe Ventilacion defender of the cult Iglesia ni Cristo.  I thought Dr. James White did a good job.  I followed up that post with my own critique of one of Joe Ventilacion’s argument titled “Argument against the Trinity? Joe Ventilacion on the death of Christ.”  In this post I want to look at another of Mr. Ventilacion’s argument focusing on the Greek word Θεόν.

Ventilacion said:

So we cornered him on the Θεόν because he cannot deny that he had a book written about the Θεόν.  He said of the Θεόν that the Θεόν is describing the Almighty God, the Yahweh the Creator of all things.

(Minute 51:28 onwards)

And:

What did Dr. James White say about the Θεόν? He said that the Θεόν the Almighty God, the Yahweh, the Creator of all things.  So if John 1:1 the Θεόν the Almighty God where do you place the  Logos?  Where would you put the Logos?  The Logos is not the Almighty God.

(Minute 52:39 onwards)

Here’s my thoughts.

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Yesterday I posted Who Is God? Trinity Debate: Dr. James White vs Bro. Joe Ventilacion.  This was a debate between Christian apologist James White and a defender of the cult Iglesia ni Cristo.  Iglesia ni Cristo denies the deity of Christ.

I want to address one of the arguments that Joe Ventilacion threw out there during his opening presentation for his anti-Trinitarian position.  He bases his argument from 1 Timothy 1:17 which states:

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

From this verse’s statement that God is immortal this is what Ventilacion argues around the 59:30 minute mark:

When Christ died, did God die?  And if he were to say that the second person only died but not the first and third persons, so for three days your Trinity is incomplete!  Because two are alive and one is dead.  So how would you call that?  How would you call that?  Is it a Trinity or is it a ‘Two-inity?’  It’s up to you to make that decision.  But he has an incomplete God for the three days that Jesus died.  Why did Jesus die?  Because Jesus is not the God of the Bible.

Despite Joe Ventilacion’s smirk and laughter from the audience from Iglesia ni Cristo members in the audience to the question of “When Christ died, did God die?” it is not as strong of an argument against the Trinity as they think it is.

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For today’s post we will tackle another question from the Skeptic Annotated Bible: When was heaven created?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

When the earth was created.

Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” (Matthew 25:34)

Sometime after the ascension of Jesus.

“In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.” (John 14:2)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

Here’s a closer look at whether or not there is a contradiction:

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A bit of a delay in posting this installment of the round up of Presuppositional apologetics’ links given our series last week.  Here it is!

Here are links concerning Presuppositional apologetics’ gathered between April 8th-14th, 2017.

1.) Cornelius Van Til Quote on Circular Reasoning?

2.) A Conservative Evangelical Response to Molly Worthen’s “The Evangelical Roots of our Post-Truth Society”

3.) A Lesson Learned

4.) A Selection of Presuppositional Arguments

5.) Removing the roof


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I’ll be involved for most of Saturday with a church evangelistic outreach in light of upcoming Resurrection Sunday.  If the Lord leads you, pray for us.  I’ll be posting more later for our week’s series on answering critics concerning the final week of Jesus.

For now here’s some Messianic prophecies as presented by Dr. Phil Fernandes.

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Last month Shepherd’s Conference released the audios from this incredible conference.  In light of Good Friday and also our series of posts this week concerning apologetics and the last week of Jesus I thought I share the audios from that conference pertaining to Messianic prophecies.

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On the one hand I appreciate that atheist and skeptic Bart Ehrman has written a book that argues for the historical existence of Jesus.  On the other hand the book is not without its problems.

Here are all our posts that exposes the fallacious reasoning in Ehrman’s book.

Bart Ehrman On Critics’ Alleged Mutually Exclusive Claims

Bart Ehrman’s Schizophrenic Misrepresentation of Fundamentalists’ view of Inspiration and Bible’s Historicity

Bart Ehrman’s Fallacious Argument from Silence in his book, “Did Jesus Exist?”

Bart Ehrman’s Claim: Jews didn’t deny other gods’ existence?

Bart Ehrman Questioning the Historicity of Jesus’ Triumphant Entry Part 1

Bart Ehrman Questioning the Historicity of Jesus’ Triumphant Entry Part 2

 

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