I surf the net often trying to keep abreast with the latest apologetics development online and also various assorted atheist website (though I have cut down on my atheist diet recently)
Well, interestingly enough, John Loftus, whom I’ve suspect in the past as the source behind various attacks against Christian anonymously or under false guise, have finally been caught cold handed in the act, thanks to the FEED CODE.
I first caught news of this from Frank WALTON earlier today, and J.P Holding of Tektonics Ministry was the target of John Loftus. So I thought I drop by Tektonics again (I was on it earlier at 7AM to see if there was any new material on a site that I’ve grown to love and hope to contribute more pieces in addition to the two essay I have there) and a link was given to the TWEB, where Mr. Holding regularly is in the forum of.
After much weasling, John Loftus the atheist who just had a recent blog on how Conservative Christians are hateful bigots (because there’s the KKK…lol!) turn out to be a hateful immature bigot himself.
He finally confessed to being behind the blog that he set up.
Peter Pike (Calvindude) over at Triablogue put it in perspective, and he’s hit it right on the nail on Atheistic hate which was written as part satire but also discusses the issue itself on Secularist bigoted hatred.
Notably,
If you believe that Debunkers don’t propagate a notably strong sense of bigotry and hatred toward those who believe differently than they, then I have some challenges for you.First, seek out a member of the Debunkers or any other brand name apostates. Ask that person as plainly as you can, “Why do you hate Peter, Paul, and Steve?” Listen to their answer. I’m willing to bet an airline ticket to the Bahamas that the answer will be something like, “We don’t hate them. We hate what they stand for,” or “Those of us who believe in Debunking supremacy are having our way of life taken from us, and we are fighting to stop that.” Or, if the person you are asking is exceptionally well-versed in their bigotry, you may even get to hear a biblically endarkening discourse on Genesis on how “God himself never claimed to create blogs. Who are we to support them?” Almost never will they say, “I admit it. You got me. I hate those theists because that’s the way I am.”…
Then, find a college atheist, a member or a sympathizer of a terrorist group like the Rational Response Squad. Ask him why he hates the Christians so much. Chances are, you’ll hear, “We don’t hate Christians. We once lived in peace with the Christians. We are fighting them to win back our freedom.” I am amazed how people can be so darn good at putting soft-peddle twists on hate speech to make it sound less objectionable.
THe three of us who blog for Vertias Domain are active in engaging in Presuppositional Apologetics and evangelism in Southern California, particularly to high schoolers, youth groups, college and grad students and Secular Campuses.
WHile following this, I thought to myself of how every anti-Christian I have met never confess their hatred to Christianity though it becomes so evident. YEsterday, during our evangelism, we had a dialogue with a regular atheist we debate with, and the amount of heat was fierce, yet there was little substance. The bulk of his ‘attack’ was ad Hominem and Red Herring, and getting upset that we would use logic since he’s rejected logic in his belief (laws of Identity is not true, no such thing as truth, no laws on Noncontradiction according to a previous conversation we had, science and logic are not compatible, Valid= good induction argument, etc…of course the list here protray a serious problem with his worldview and his own understanding of logic).
But he wouldn’t say he’s a hate monger. Ask someone walking by, and you might get something different…where he’s caught with his pants down.
Did I miss where you posted the example of the offending atheists hate speech?
Did I miss the part of the post that accused offending atheists of hate speech?
To answer where the “hate speech” section came from, you’ll need to consult Joe Holman –> http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2007/05/on-christian-bigotry-and-hatred.html
Thanks for the plug, guys. Just to let you know I responded to Loftus’ reply:
http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/john-w-loftus-is-dishonest-about-his.html
The dude is a wacko.
Ah, I guess it is all too confusing for me.
Thanks Frank for the link
Loftus is a very unstable person. It’s amazing to watch.
I’ve been answering questions and posting questions to various religious groups including atheists. The atheists and other anti-Christians will make false reports about the answers given by christians and the questions in order to get them deleted including their account. They will pretend to be Christians and make absurd stereotypical comments which they claim Christians make. Sometimes they will not say they are atheists outright and answer questions meant for Christians, and given an appearance of being a Christian to those who are new and not familiar with such atheists.
They will also troll you and look for questions and answers you’ve made to report. Despite yahoo’s new blocking feature, certain atheists have managed to get around it somehow. The offenders so far that I’ve encountered are kjelstad, gazoo (I blocked three of his accounts) and recently King K. There is one other but I forget. They will blatantly break yahoo’s guidelines (such as not insulting) and will do so anyways and incredibly no matter how many times I report kjelstad and gazoo for harassment, including answering on questions not meant for them, the moderator or moderators will not delete them.
I also told the other atheists about what they were doing and how it was hypocritical for them to claim all Christians are Bible-bashers and try to force things on you, when they allow characters like kjelstad and gazoo to get away with harassment.
On top of that, my account was deleted after I reported them!
I posted a question to let them know about it and instead of support, every single atheist including kjelstad mocked and belittled me including false Christians like Quella Bella, batgirl2good, emmapeel (a liberal episcopalian). And incredibly, some of these railers instead chose to say things like “we know you are really so and so” (saying I had duplicate accounts) rather than helping to get rid of these stalkers.
They are always like that: question and fact dodgers and will dwell on what does not matter or what is of far less importance.
Here is a typical example of a page that was deleted by someone making a false report and the moderator believing it (according to yahoo they don’t have automatic deleting but it’s evaluated, if that is true, then the moderator who deleted this page is biased):
http://romans916.com/how-do-atheists-determine-design.html
That’s just one example of many questions that embarrass them which they then may try to get rid of.
I’ve also noticed that the moderators seem to protect certain members. For example a massive hypocrite, and I mean massive, named gorgeoustxwoman was shown to be a historical ignorant despite pretending to be knowledgeable about the history of Christianity.
http://romans916.com/gorgeoustxwoman-defeated.html
On that post the link to her bigotry was shown, immediately the page was deleted (to my amazement I just found it while typing this):
gorgeoustxwoman-bashing-christians.html
She pretends to be a tolerance and free-speech lover and yet from those sites and this one below (her little victory party
“question”) she demonstrates that she is just the opposite:
http://romans916.com/gorgeoustxwoman-gloats.html
http://romans916.com/gorgeoustxwoman-being-a-hypocrite-again.html
Well, here’s my profile, at least for now:
http://myanswers.tk
Using that link helps since if an account is deleted I can just redirect the link to a new account if I want.
Ooops, when I said “while typing this” I meant typing the comment to you hah. Also the full link is: http://romans916.com/gorgeoustxwoman-bashing-christians.html
K.E.M.
You mean like the trolls you’ve continually created of me, or the harassing letters you’ve sent, or the times you’ve taken months and months to build up accounts and then utilize them all to report everyone who is an atheist, an agnostic, or not a Real Christian®?
You’re out of your mind. I think it’s adorable. If you and I got married and had half-atheist, half-fundamentalist babies what do you think God would do? Dash them upon the stones? Or would you do that yourself? You stud.
Lots of love,
Thricey
You are a very sick piece of work did you know that ? All you can do is lie and hate . Is it because you are gay and won’t admit it ? Is that why you rape ? Yeah I heard you got off because you are a nutter but that doesn’t matter now does it . The DA who left you off should be take out back and stripped hamstrung and turned loose to the tender mercies of your victims . You know rape isn’t sex it is violence and control .
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