For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Who wrote the Pentateuch?
Here are the answers which the skeptic believes indicate a Bible contradiction:
Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch.
“So Moses wrote this Law and gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and to all the elders of Israel.” (Deuteronomy 31:9)
“These are the words that Moses spoke to all Israel across the Jordan in the wilderness, in the Arabah opposite Suph, between Paran and Tophel, Laban, Hazeroth, and Dizahab.” ( Deuteronomy 1:1)
There were other authors.
Unless Moses called himself (using the 3rd person) the meekest man “upon the face of the earth.”: “(Now the man Moses was very humble, more than any person who was on the face of the earth.)” (Numbers 12:3)
Observed and described his own death and burial. And then said that no one knows exactly where he was buried: “So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, in accordance with the [a]word of the Lord. 6 And He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no one knows his burial place to this day.” (Deuteronomy 34:5-6)
And unless Moses claimed to be be greatest prophet, saying there hasn’t been as great a prophet ever since: “Since that time no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,” (Deuteronomy 34:10)
(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)
Here’s a closer look at whether or not there is a contradiction:
- When dealing with skeptics’ claim of Bible contradictions it seems one can never be reminded enough of what exactly is a contradiction. A contradiction occurs when two or more claims conflict with one another so that they cannot simultaneously be true in the same sense and at the same time. To put it another way, a Bible contradiction exists when there are claims within the Bible that are mutually exclusive in the same sense and at the same time.
- One should be skeptical of whether this is a Bible contradiction given the Skeptic Annotated Bible’s track record of inaccurately handling the Bible. See the many examples of their error which we have responded to in this post: Collection of Posts Responding to Bible Contradictions. Of course that does not take away the need to respond to this claim of a contradiction, which is what the remainder of this post will do. But this observation should caution us to slow down and look more closely at the passages cited by the Skeptic Annotated Bible to see if they interpreted the passages properly to support their conclusion that it is a Bible contradiction.
- The skeptic tries to pit two passages (Deuteronomy 31:9 and Deuteronomy 1:1) as affirming the claim “Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch” (Pentateuch is the first five book of the Bible) against three other passages (Numbers 12:3, Deuteronomy 34:5-6, Deuteronomy 34:10) as affirming “Other authors wrote the entire Pentateuch.”
- The two passages (Deuteronomy 31:9 and Deuteronomy 1:1) cited as “Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch” actually does not state what the skeptic claimed.
- Neither Deuteronomy 31:9 nor Deuteronomy 1:1 said anything of all or the entire Pentateuch.
- Also both passages seems to have the book of Deuteronomy in view and not the whole Pentateuch.
- Given Deuteronomy 31:9 and Deuteronomy 1:1 doesn’t establish the skeptics claim of “Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch” this means there’s no Bible contradiction with the skeptics’ claim “Other authors wrote the entire Pentateuch.”
- Still I want to look further. It seems possible that some of the verses the skeptics cited as proof for the proposition “Other authors wrote the entire Pentateuch” are not conclusive.
- While it might be strange for Moses to say he’s the most humble in Numbers 12:3, it might be possible that God is doing more of the speaking here through Moses. It might be awkward for us readers today but it doesn’t necessitate that it was written for sure by another writer.
- Likewise both Deuteronomy 34:5-6 and Deuteronomy 34:10 can be Moses writing prophetically.
- My interpretation is that Moses wrote the majority of the Pentateuch given how frequently the rest of the Bible call these five books “the Law of Moses.” Yet there was a Prophet, likely Joshua, who added additional details after Moses died. But that would not be a contradiction. As an example of how that’s not a contradiction consider the book We Are All Philosophers by John Frame. Would it be weird if I start asserting I co-author the book by John Frame? If you read my review I mentioned the first question he answered in the appendix was actually a question I sent him many years ago, the date and the way I phrased the question was retained, and I also shared John Frame’s answer on my blog many years ago! But it will be strange that just because those words were mine that I say John Frame isn’t the sole author. Nor does the fact that John Frame had an editor means John Frame is not the main writer which we call author.
- There is no contradiction here. Seems the skeptic needs to learn of How to Handle Bible Contradictions.
- We shouldn’t miss that worldviews are at play even with the skeptic’s objection to Christianity. The worldview of the author of the Skeptic Annotated Bible actually doesn’t even allow for such a thing as the law of non-contradiction to be meaningful and intelligible. In other words for him to try to disprove the Bible by pointing out that there’s a Bible contradiction doesn’t even make sense within his own worldview. Check out our post “Skeptic Annotated Bible Author’s Self-Defeating Worldview.”
Amen! “Seems the skeptic needs to learn of How to Handle Bible Contradictions.”
And amen Michael! Thanks for all the comments and support of the blog. I pray you have a blessed weekend ahead of you Michael, that all you do and enjoy and rest would be blessed and allow you to delight in our God more!
Good point in item 7. Congratulations on the influence you had on John Frame’s book. I agree with you that Frame wrote the book in spite of any influences and credits due to others. The same with Moses and the Pentateuch.
A more serious objection to Moses comes from those who speculate that four unknown authors identified by JEDP authored much of the Pentateuch implying Moses could not have written it. I maintain that Moses existed, was able to write those books and actually wrote them.
Thanks for reading this and noting point seven. Yes JEdp can be more complicated and I dare say even more fanciful and speculative and unfounded. It also seems advocates of higher critical view of the Law of Moses are also inconsistent with their own criteria of figuring out what is j e d p. Like you “ I maintain that Moses existed, was able to write those books and actually wrote them.“ To that I say amen. Any plans for this weekend brother Frank?
There is a men’s breakfast this Saturday at our church. I am looking forward to that.
Seems like liberal theory about JEDP is impacting the Skeptic Annotated Bible’s interpretation, but without the sophisticated sophistry
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That is so cool that John Frame referenced you!!!! You did a great job with this! Would it be possible that God informed Moses of how he was going to die, as such, Moses wrote about his death before he died? It is something I ponder. I am not opposed to Joshua being the author, but I am opposed to the viewpoint that Moses did not write the Torah. Again, great work with this!
Good comment! I go back and forth between your interpretation of Moses’ prophet insight and Joshua writing certain parts. I’m not dogmatic with my view and if I took another view it be yours that you mentioned. I too take the same stance about Moses authorship of the Torah. Are you traveling today or is your mom traveling to see you???
I tend to lean more toward your position; however, because people can be so dogmatic or anti Moses authorship that I have been contemplating and doing here and there research on it the topic.
My mom came in to town today. It is such a joy to see her. She will be present for our zoom time tomorrow. I hope it’s ok but I have a special shout out for my mom that I want to share with y’all and her tomorrow if that’s ok. It ties in with Jesus being the door!!!!
Thanks for refuting another one of Steve/Stephen Wells’ either/or false dichotomies. Yes, I’ve often heard it preached that Joshua completed the Pentateuch following the death of Moses. It may be a stretch, but I think of the typology of Joshua/Jesus completing the Law and Jesus fulfilling the Law.
Whoah that’s the first time I heard of that typology, I do think it is fascinating that Jesus and Joshua in the Hebrew is the same name and never thought about consciously of how Joshua follow after the Laws of Moses. How is your shift today???
I’ve read a few things previously about Joshua/Jesus being a type, Joshua leading the believers into the Promise Land while Moses (the Law) was not able to.
RE: shift
Thanks! So far it looks like an extremely light weekend unless some orders drop by surprise.
How’s your Friday going?
I’m glad to see someone still professing the truth that Moses wrote the law of Moses. 😁
For the skeptics: If you use this objection then you don’t understand anything about interpreting others. These types of things can be a hard lesson to learn. Why won’t you just take it on the chin and give up and im sure Christians are available to talk about surrendering and repenting to Christ.
As usual, you make sense, they don’t. Have a great weekend, Jimmy.
Thanks for reading this and the comment sister. How has your week been?
Good! Some great serendipity. (Divinely planned, unexpected happenings.) You know me, I’ll probably write about it. 😉
Interesting discussion. At breakfast this morning my small group was talking about Psalm 119 where David–I assume David wrote this–was writing about the need to follow all of God’s laws and precepts. As nearly as I can determine, he was speaking of the laws and precepts found in the first five books of the Bible, the only part of the Bible in written form at that time. Is that how you see it, SlimJim?
Thanks for dropping by Jim and sharing that. I don’t know how many books in OT was written when David lived, I think Job for instance was written quite early. Still given Psalm 119 use of synonyms referring to the Law and given the prominence of the Law of Moses with laws David certainly must have had the Laws of Moses in mind!! I agree with you brother! Thanks for your thoughtful comment!
It seems Psalm 119 must include the Torah in David’s mind
Allow me to complicate matters. Because of the structure of early parts of Genesis, many biblical creationists believe that they were written by other authors, including Adam. These were brought onto the Ark, and eventually Moses acted as an editor. Article of faith? Not hardly! If things happened that way, the principles you stated could still be applied. Guess I didn’t complicate matters after all.
Bob it’s fascinating to think about the different sources that must have been behind Moses knowing information to write Genesis (and of course through it all God in His sovereignty is writing His Word). I didn’t think it complicate matters at all that you shared that! Blessing to you Bob have a blessed Saturday
If the skeptic think this is a contradiction, I can’t imagine the skeptic ever being exposed to academic writings where there’s an author but there’s input of students, journal editors, other peers, etc. He needs to expand his horizon.
This is so typical of hardened unbelievers. They appeal to their own experience as authority though its limited and next they gave up making sense
They gave up making sense as soon as they deny God’s existence, despite the General Revelation around them
Appreciate you take out the trash.
Donald Colorado
Someone told me “I don’t know if I rightly divide the word, which is why I ask for the views of others.” He thinks it’s sad when those he ask get defensive and insecure about the mention of a single verse. So we are good friends since I answer his question. But I also tell him to look up your site
And thank you for writing these answers
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Solid response to the skeptic and your real life example drove the point home
A typical example of atheists ignoring the context. The skeptic must be permanently scarred by these posts!
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