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This past week I was teaching a men’s group and we are doing a series on Spiritual Lessons on Difficult Old Testament passage.

I covered Judges 11 on Jephthah.  In the past I have written about this here: Resolving Bible Difficulty: Jephthah’s daughter.

I got a pushback from the Bible study from someone who insists that Jephthah was in the right with killing his daughter for burnt offering.  I disagree.  I think Jephthah was wrong.

I won’t rehearse all my reasons since the previous link goes into it.  But I want to examine the other person’s argument which is based upon Judges 11:1:

2Now Jephthah the Gileadite was a valiant warrior, but he was the son of a harlot. And Gilead [b]was the father of Jephthah.(Judges 11:29-40)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

He argued that because Jephthah was a valiant warrior according to this verse, Jephthah is honorable and therefore what he did is right and should be our example.

Here’s my argument against it.

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Note: This is a guest post since presently I am overseas.  This is by Daniel M. Klem.  His blog be found here.  This is part of a series he’s doing for his blog!

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This is definitely longform, but I pray it’s worth it for you!

I am a youth pastor and elder for my congregation. I also work at Grand Canyon University in the Christian Worldview classroom (and happen to be restarting my Master of Divinity), and I occasionally speak at apologetics events and groups.

I have encountered many different people over the past 23 years that have helped to hone my apologetics and responses, beginning with my parents challenging my faith for basically the first year I was a Christian, continuing into friends and family either challenging my beliefs and the Bible or asking sincere questions, and up through outreach ministries and hostile attacks in public.

Over the period of June 2022 through June 2023 (you know, that period when Roe vs. Wade was overturned here in the US), I have encountered several atheists who have felt the need to put my fellow Christians and me in our place. Here are (briefly) some of the best/hardest questions/accusations and a summary of my replies that have come up during this time, so that we can see the dialogue currently going on against the pro-life movement and Christianity. You may have seen some of these before!

There was one man who works for a genetics company who made most of these claims. Two other men and a woman who shared similar opinions on most of these helped shape how most of these are worded, so these are not necessarily word-for-word what was said in each circumstance, though I did find myself repeating the same things, regardless of how they were presented to me.

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Note: This is a guest post since presently I am overseas. This is by Scott Stocking. Scott is no stranger to some of you who read this blog. His blog be found here.

Bible 2

 

Introduction

I want to say thank you to Jim Lee (“SlimJim”) for the opportunity to provide a “guest post” to this important blog. Just a little bit to introduce myself before I get into the topic. I was raised in the Presbyterian Church USA, but when I came to understand my need for a personal relationship with Christ, I eventually made my way to the Restoration Movement. After getting a BA in Psychology from the University of Nebraska Omaha, I earned a Master of Divinity in Old Testament/Hebrew from Lincoln (IL) Christian Seminary. I went on teach as an adjunct for several Bible-focused universities in biblical languages, hermeneutics, and worldviews, and other biblical studies courses.

In 2011, I took the Strengths survey from Gallup, and discovered I had the “gift” of intellection. One of the suggestions for me to develop that gift further was to write a blog, which I had just started to do. I had committed to reading through the Greek New Testament and writing about my discoveries along the way. That was the birth of my Sunday Morning Greek Blog. I went on to read through the Greek New Testament again in 2012 and continued writing. In the last couple years, after churches began to open up again after the pandemic, I found myself filling pulpits, so most of my recent posts are my sermons.

Tackling the Easy Stuff First

For my topic today, I want to address Mr. Wells’ treatment of 1 Corinthians 6:9–11 in The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible. He identifies three issues with his symbols on this passage: injustice, intolerance, and homosexuality. I want to dispense with his first error, because it’s easy to do so. He says, “Paul lists ten groups of people who will never enter heaven.” Actually, he only lists one group, “the unrighteous,” and lists ten subgroups, hardly exhaustive, that, on their own merits, would certainly not inherit the kingdom of God.

But verse 11, which Wells completely ignores, provides important context for Paul’s statement. He says, “For such were some of you,” and goes on to indicate they have been sanctified and justified so that the promise of the kingdom is indeed theirs to claim. This also answers Contradiction #434: People who were once thieves, or living any of the other sinful lifestyles identified for that matter, can be redeemed. One more point: the Greek word for “thief” in 1 Corinthians 6:10 (kleptēs) is not the word used in Mark 15:27 (lēstēs; KJV: “thief”; NIV: “rebel”) or Luke 23:39 (kakourgos; KJV: “malefactor”; NIV: “criminal”). These are not the contradictions you’re looking for, Mr. Wells. Move along.

Word Study on the Greek Terms Behind “Effeminate” and “Abusers of Themselves With Mankind”

For someone who wants to be skeptical about the Scriptures, he doesn’t seem to have done much homework on the things he’s skeptical about. I’ve seen comments to that effect from many of the Veritas Domain readers here. I want to help mitigate his ignorance of who the “effeminate” (KJV) are. One of the most basic steps he could have taken was to check how other English versions translated the underlying Greek term here. I’ll discuss those below, but I want to start with tools available for those who don’t have access to Greek. Let’s look at how some of the modern translations translate the passage.

(KJV) “effeminate…abusers of themselves with mankind”

(NIV 2011) “men who have sex with men” (this actually conflates the two Greek words translated “effeminate” and “abusers”)

(ESV) “men who practice homosexuality” (again, a conflation of the two terms)

(TNIV; precursor to NIV 2011) “male prostitutes…practicing homosexuals”

(RSV) “sexual perverts” (conflation)

(NRSV) “male prostitutes…sodomites”

(NASB) “effeminate…homosexuals”

(NKJV) “homosexuals…sodomites”

So as one can easily see, none of the translations are particularly flattering for these two terms, nor are the rest of the terms in the two verses flattering in any way. The NIV gives a rather basic description without using any labels, perhaps because they’re focusing on the sinful act more than on the labels.

But let’s dig a little deeper to see just what’s behind these translations. (For a detailed look at these words, please see my post, μαλακός (malakos) “soft,” “weak,” “effeminate”: A Look at Classical and Biblical Greek Usage.) The Greek term translated “effeminate” is malakos. The word is only used a few times in the NT, and not always with sexual meaning. The word is used in the Gospels in two parallel passages (Matthew 11:8, Luke 7:25) to speak of people in palaces who wear “fine” clothes. This is completely consistent with one of the semantic domains of the word in classical Greek writings. That particular domain has the general meaning of “soft” or “delicate,” and can refer to anything from someone’s appetite to soft turf on which a horse is trained to the soft coat of a horse or other animal. It is used in opposition to the Greek word for hard, sklēra. It can also be used of furniture. That seems to be more of a neutral, benign use of the word.

But it also has a negative connotation that again has nothing to do with sexuality. Broadly speaking, the semantic domain for this use has to do with weakness (this is what the abstract noun form, malakia, means, but still applied to the substantive form malakos). It is used in parallel with the Greek word for “weak” and in contrast with “strong.” It even describes the defeated (and deceased) Hektor after a battle scene, or the character of an army or military leader who refuses to fight when necessary. This is definitely not flattering, especially in a male-dominated culture that valued strong men and warriors.

Like the Bible, classical Greek does use the word to refer to sexual activity or orientation. Herodotus describes Telines as someone “soft and effeminate,” using the word for femaleness in parallel with malakos. This is one reason why I believe this is referring to someone who acts like a female. In fact, Louw & Nida, in their lexicon for Bible translators, define the word as the “passive male partner in homosexual intercourse.” This is further bolstered by the complementary term that follows, arsenokoitēs (KJV: “abusers of themselves with mankind”; yeah, all that for one Greek word!), which is a compound word meaning literally “lying with

men.” Louw & Nida indicate this is the term for the “active male partner in homosexual intercourse.”

Conclusion

When I was a campus minister many years ago, the school I ministered at had the largest Gay-Lesbian Student Union (as they called it at the time; mid 1990s). Many of them tried to argue that the term malakos meant “morally soft,” in keeping with nonsexual semantic domains. But Paul makes it clear in the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 that these were sins that often led to some sort of social stigma or isolation. The irony is, such a misguided interpretation “softens” the hard reality of the passage.

These sins, or perhaps more accurately, sinful lifestyles, identified in 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 are evidence of life lived outside of God’s grace and apart from belief in Jesus as the Messiah. In fact, we often need to remind ourselves as Christ-followers that we ALL have sinned and fall short of God’s glory. It’s not the sins themselves that keep us out of heaven; it’s the lack of acknowledging that Christ is the only one who can cleanse us of our sins, restore us to a right relationship with God, and ensure for us the hope of eternal life in his coming kingdom. Christ died for us while we were ungodly, while we were still sinners (Romans 5:6–8). Let us be shining lights in a world of darkness so the world can know God’s salvation.

Thank you for allowing me to share with you. Peace to all.

My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the owner of this blog.

Scott Stocking

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Who survived to see the promised land during the Exodus?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Only Caleb

“Certainly all the people who have seen My glory and My signs which I performed in Egypt and in the wilderness, yet have put Me to the test these ten times and have not listened to My voice, 23 shall by no means see the land which I swore to their fathers, nor shall any of those who were disrespectful to Me see it. 24 But as for My servant Caleb, because he has had a different spirit and has followed Me fully, I will bring him into the land which he entered, and his descendants shall take possession of it.” (Numbers 14:22-24)

Both Caleb and Joshua

“those men who brought the bad report of the land also died by a plague in the presence of the Lord. 38 But Joshua the son of Nun and Caleb the son of Jephunneh remained alive out of those men who went to spy out the land.” (Numbers 14:37-38)

“But among these there was not a man of those who were numbered by Moses and Aaron the priest, who numbered the sons of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai. 65 For the Lord had said of them, “They shall certainly die in the wilderness.” And not a man was left of them, except Caleb the son of Jephunneh and Joshua the son of Nun.” (Numbers 26:64-65)

“So the Lord’s anger burned on that day, and He swore, saying, 11 ‘None of the men who came up from Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I swore to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; for they did not follow Me fully, 12 except Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite and Joshua the son of Nun; for they have followed the Lord fully.’” (Numbers 32:10-12)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Did Balaam curse the Israelites?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Yes

Balaam was hired to curse the Israelites.

“No Ammonite or Moabite may enter the assembly of the Lord; none of their descendants, even to the tenth generation, may ever enter the assembly of the Lord, 4 because they did not meet you with food and water on the way when you came out of Egypt, and because they hired against you Balaam the son of Beor from Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse you.” (Deuteronomy 23:3-4)

Balaam cursed the Israelites, but God turned his curse into a blessing.

“Then Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, rose up and fought against Israel, and he sent messengers and summoned Balaam the son of Beor to curse you. 10 But I was not willing to listen to Balaam. So he had to bless you, and I saved you from his hand.” (Joshua 24:9-10)

“On that day the Book of Moses was read aloud as the people listened; and there was found written in it that no Ammonite or Moabite was ever to enter the assembly of God, 2 because they did not meet the sons of Israel with bread and water, but hired Balaam against them to curse them. However, our God turned the curse into a blessing.” (Nehemiah 13:1-2)

No

Balaam refused the curse the Israelites

“And he took up his discourse and said, “From Aram Balak has brought me, Moab’s king from the mountains of the East, saying, ‘Come, declare Jacob cursed for me, And come, curse Israel!’ 8 How am I to put a curse on him upon whom God has not put a curse? And how am I to curse him whom the Lord has not cursed?” (Numbers 23:7-8)

“Then Balak’s anger burned against Balaam, and he struck his hands together; and Balak said to Balaam, “I called you to curse my enemies, but behold, you have persisted in blessing them these three times!” (Numbers 24:10)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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The Skeptic Annotated Bible website under the “Science and history” criticism of the book of Psalms notes that the King James Version talk about unicorns.
 

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: How many generations were between Levi and Moses?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Three generations

“And these are the names of the sons of Levi according to their generations: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari; and the length of Levi’s life was 137 years. 17 The sons of Gershon: Libni and Shimei, according to their families. 18 And the sons of Kohath: Amram, Izhar, Hebron, and Uzziel; and the length of Kohath’s life was 133 years. 19 And the sons of Merari: Mahli and Mushi. These are the families of the Levites according to their generations. 20 Now Amram married his father’s sister Jochebed, and she bore him Aaron and Moses; and the length of Amram’s life was 137 years.” (Exodus 6:16-20)

“The sons of Levi were Gershon, Kohath, and Merari. 2 The sons of Kohath were Amram, Izhar, Hebron, and Uzziel. 3 The children of Amram were Aaron, Moses, and Miriam. And the sons of Aaron were Nadab, Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.” (1 Chronicles 6:1-3)

“David divided them into divisions according to the sons of Levi: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari. 7 Of the Gershonites there were Ladan and Shimei. 8 The sons of Ladan were Jehiel the first, and Zetham and Joel, three. 9 The sons of Shimei were Shelomoth, Haziel, and Haran, three. These were the heads of the fathers’ households of Ladan. 10 The sons of Shimei were Jahath, [b]Zina, Jeush, and Beriah. These four were the sons of Shimei. 11 Jahath was the first and Zizah the second; but Jeush and Beriah did not have many sons, so they became a father’s household, one group for duty. 12 The sons of Kohath were four in number: Amram, Izhar, Hebron, and Uzziel.” (1 Chronicles 23:6-12)

Ten generations

“Their father Ephraim mourned for many days, and his relatives came to comfort him. 23 Then he went in to his wife, and she conceived and gave birth to a son, and he named him Beriah, because misfortune had come upon his house. 24 His daughter was Sheerah, who built lower and upper Beth-horon, as well as Uzzen-sheerah. 25 Rephah was his son along with Resheph, Telah his son, Tahan his son, 26 Ladan his son, Ammihud his son, Elishama his son, 27 Non his son, and Joshua his son.” (1 Chronicles 7:22-27)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Did the men with Paul hear the voice?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Yes, they heard the voice.

“The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one.” (Acts 9:7)

No, they didn’t hear the voice.

“And those who were with me saw the light, but did not understand the voice of the One who was speaking to me.” (Acts.22:9)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: How many sons does God have?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

God has only one son (Jesus).

“The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.” (John 3:18)

“By this the love of God was revealed in us, that God has sent His only Son into the world so that we may live through Him.” (1 John 4:9)

God has many sons.

“the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.” (Luke 3:38)

“that the sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not remain with man forever, because he is also flesh; nevertheless his days shall be 120 years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of mankind, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.” (Genesis 6:2-4)

“Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: “Israel is My son, My firstborn.” (Exodus 4:22)

“They will come with weeping, And by pleading I will bring them; I will lead them by streams of waters, On a straight path on which they will not stumble; For I am a father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn.”” (Jeremiah 31:9)

“Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.” (Job 1:6)

“Again, there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.” (Job 2:1)

““I will announce the decree of the Lord: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have fathered You. 8 Ask it of Me, and I will certainly give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession.” (Psalm 2:7-8)

“He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be a father to him and he will be a son to Me; when he does wrong, I will discipline him with a rod of men and with strokes of sons of mankind,” (2 Samuel 7:13-14)

“On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?” (Job 38:6-7)

““Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.” (Matthew 5:9)

“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name,” (John 1:12)

“so that you will prove yourselves to be blameless and innocent, children of God above reproach in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you appear as lights in the world,” (Philippians 2:15)

“Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.” (1 John 3:2)

Whoever is led by the Spirit of God is a son of God.

“For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons and daughters of God.” (Romans 8:14)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Did Paul go to Jerusalem immediately after his conversion?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Yes

“When he came to Jerusalem, he tried repeatedly to associate with the disciples; and yet they were all afraid of him, as they did not believe that he was a disciple.” (Acts 9:26)

No

“to reveal His Son in me so that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with flesh and blood, 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went away to Arabia, and returned once more to Damascus.” (Galatians 1:16-17)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Were the men with Paul knocked to the ground?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Yes, they fell to the ground.

“And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew dialect, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’” (Acts 26:14)

No, they remained standing.

“The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one.” (Acts 9:7)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Is it OK to curse people?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Do not curse anyone.

“Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.” (Romans 12:14)

No

“If anyone does not love the Lord, he is to be accursed. Maranatha!” (1 Corinthians 16:22)

“But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9 As we have said before, even now I say again: if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!” (Galatians 1:8-9)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Should we try to please others?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Yes

“Each of us is to please his neighbor for his good, to his edification.” (Romans 15:2)

“just as I also please everyone in all things, not seeking my own benefit but the benefit of the many, so that they may be saved.” (1 Corinthians 10:33)

No

“For am I now seeking the favor of people, or of God? Or am I striving to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.” (Galatians 1:10)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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For today’s post we will tackle the question the Skeptic Annotated Bible asked: Did Paul see Jesus on the road to Damascus?

Here are the two answers which the skeptic believes shows a Bible contradiction:

Yes

“Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord?” (1 Corinthians 9:1)

“and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.” (1 Corinthians 15:8)

No, he was blind and “saw no man.”

“Saul got up from the ground, and though his eyes were open, he could see nothing; and leading him by the hand, they brought him into Damascus.” ( Acts 9:8)

(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)

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